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Back in June 2016, we had a vote on whether the UK Remains or Leaves the EU:

17,410,742voted to Leave
16,141,241 voted to Remain


The turnout was 46,500,001.


Now, a petition to revoke Article 50 has reached over 4 million.



My question is: Why does that suddenly matter?
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They think they can overturn the result with a petition. A petition that overseas Brits (who probably didn't vote in the ref) and those who couldn't vote in the ref can sign. What I think will happen is that the government will only debate it in parliament on day one of us leaving. April 13th apparently.
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It doesn’t.
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If they won the vote I doubt they would be calling for a second one. Some people just can't get over the fact they lost. This petition is their last rage against the dying of the light.

That being said, I can sympathise with wanting to turn back after the government has made such a hash of Brexit. If it does get called off in the end, it would essentially be because Parliament sabotaged the whole thing with their squabbling and incompetence.
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If they won the vote I doubt they would be calling for a second one. Some people just can't get over the fact they lost. This petition is their last rage against the dying of the light.

That being said, I can sympathise with wanting to turn back after the government has made such a hash of Brexit. If it does get called off in the end, it would essentially be because Parliament sabotaged the whole thing with their squabbling and incompetence.
Of course they wouldn't be demanding a second vote!

The Government's aim is to cancel Brexit, as I've said 80%+ of MPs are pro-Remain.
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It definitely won't change anything, but it sure as hell brings awareness to those who want to leave that, once we leave, the things that they voted for may not necessarily happen. At least not the way the want it to.
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It almost certainly doesn't matter.

But there is no harm in making your voice heard. At the very least, it differentiates us from the 17.4 million Brits are responsible for creating this cluster**** of a mess that is Brexit.
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It almost certainly doesn't matter.

But there is no harm in making your voice heard. At the very least, it differentiates us from the 17.4 million Brits are responsible for creating this cluster**** of a mess that is Brexit.
Lol what?

That’s completely absurd. The only people who are to blame are Theresa May and her Tory government.
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Lol what?

That’s completely absurd. The only people who are to blame are Theresa May and her Tory government.
Ah, the predictable look for someone to blame other than the very people who voted for Brexit narrative.
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Ah, the predictable look for someone to blame other than the very people who voted for Brexit narrative.
I and every other person who voted Leave knew why they voted and what they voted for. Is it being delivered? NO. It's May's job to deliver and she simply isn't. She's an appeaser. She's being royally ****ed over by the EU.

What on Earth are every Tom, **** and Larry who voted Leave supposed to do right now? Tell me.
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(Original post by Occitanie)
I and every other person who voted Leave knew why they voted and what they voted for. Is it being delivered? NO. It's May's job to deliver and she simply isn't. She's an appeaser. She's being royally ****ed over by the EU.

What on Earth are every Tom, **** and Larry who voted Leave supposed to do right now? Tell me.
They like to call us stupid, for not knowing the consequences etc. Are they sure "no" UK businesses would have upped sticks or closed down had we voted their way? Are they sure remaining would not somehow mean a rush towards the Channel by all those migrants? Are they sure, having voted Remain we'd not be taught a lesson like a naughty little kid for daring to leave?
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(Original post by Occitanie)
I and every other person who voted Leave knew why they voted and what they voted for. Is it being delivered? NO. It's May's job to deliver and she simply isn't. She's an appeaser. She's being royally ****ed over by the EU.

What on Earth are every Tom, **** and Larry who voted Leave supposed to do right now? Tell me.
Idk, but it's the same thing the rest of us are supposed to do because we're all in the same sinking boat now.

Also, it's VERY bold of you to assume that, out of 17 and a half million people, every single one of them made a completely informed decision to vote leave.
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Idk, but it's the same thing the rest of us are supposed to do because we're all in the same sinking boat now.

Also, it's VERY bold of you to assume that, out of 17 and a half million people, every single one of them made a completely informed decision to vote leave.
I’m telling you the vast majority did.
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I and every other person who voted Leave knew why they voted and what they voted for.

They did? Can show me the detailed proposals the various leave campaigns or significant figures who supported Brexit had for the Irish border? If not, we will have to assume you didn't think the Brexit process through.

Is it being delivered? NO. It's May's job to deliver and she simply isn't. She's an appeaser.
Brexit supporters had the opportunity to vote for Brexit supporting MPs in 2017. Many chose not to, instead they voted for parties that were deeply divided over Brexit and ridden with infighting. You are getting the chaotic Brexit you deserve.

being royally ****ed over by the EU.
Again, you are looking for someone to blame. Stop it with the victim mentality.

What on Earth are every Tom, **** and Larry who voted Leave supposed to do right now? Tell me.
Sit on your corpulent backside, whine, and wait for the establishment figures who made false promises to deliver Brexit? At least that is what you've been doing for almost three years.

It's telling that thousands are marching in support of a second referendum today yet only around 200 people bothered to turned out for Nigel Farage this morning.
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(Original post by Occitanie)
I’m telling you the vast majority did.
Vast is perhaps not the word I would use. Knowing the British public, to say that even the whole 10% that won the vote did would probably be a wild exaggeration.
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(Original post by Trotsky's Iceaxe)

It's telling that thousands are marching in support of a second referendum today yet only around 200 people bothered to turned out for Nigel Farage this morning.
Why do Leavers need to march? What slogan they have on their banner?
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(Original post by Trotsky's Iceaxe)
They did? Can show me the detailed proposals the various leave campaigns or significant figures who supported Brexit had for the Irish border? If not, we will have to assume you didn't think the Brexit process through.



Brexit supporters had the opportunity to vote for Brexit supporting MPs in 2017. Many chose not to, instead they voted for parties that were deeply divided over Brexit and ridden with infighting. You are getting the chaotic Brexit you deserve.



Again, you are looking for someone to blame. Stop it with the victim mentality.



Sit on your corpulent backside, whine, and wait for the establishment figures who made false promises to deliver Brexit? At least that is what you've been doing for almost three years.

It's telling that thousands are marching in support of a second referendum today yet only around 200 people bothered to turned out for Nigel Farage this morning.
I just got back from the march and to be fair some of the people there marched three times using different email addresses and some of them were actually marching in Afghanistan.
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I am a 'Remainer' however I respect the outcome of Brexit as I would be undermining Britain's biggest exercise of democracy if I was to sign that petition (which I shouldn't anyway because I'm not 18 yet) so I didn't. Moreover, this just seems like something that is happening because they were bitter that the outcome wasn't what they wanted.
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(Original post by Occitanie)
Back in June 2016, we had a vote on whether the UK Remains or Leaves the EU:

17,410,742 voted to Leave
16,141,241 voted to Remain

The turnout was 46,500,001.

Now, a petition to revoke Article 50 has reached over 4 million.

My question is: Why does that suddenly matter?
It doesn't 'matter' but people still want their voice to be heard.

The government has, arguably, ignored the views of the 48% who voted remain. Brexit wasn't a decisive victory, Leave won by a relatively small margin. Either through May's deal or no deal at all, the Brexit we'll be getting will be a hard one.
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