Pakistan BREAKS ceasefire launching ATTACK against India as conflict escalates Watch

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There are literally 3 articles, all of which are from unreliable sources, and a youtube video. The rest are from months ago. Nor is there a tweet from 'Lt. Col. Devender Anand". Please find me an official source from the MOD or any other verified sources.
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Stop derailing thread with your whimsical comments.
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What do you propose we do then?
Well it's a bit late now.They have nukes.The idea would have been to stop a fanatical Muslim country getting hold of them in the first place.
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I don't get how that could turn into a Third World War.

Who's even going to fight on either side? Bhutan and Nepal have no military. I guess Bangladesh is possible. I don't even see Sri Lanka butting in. Pakistan isn't particularly close to anyone, and China certainly isn't going in unless they want certain pieces of land.
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I don't get how that could turn into a Third World War.

Who's even going to fight on either side? Bhutan and Nepal have no military. I guess Bangladesh is possible. I don't even see Sri Lanka butting in. Pakistan isn't particularly close to anyone, and China certainly isn't going in unless they want certain pieces of land.
Well they both have nuclear weapons, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the start, look at WW1, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
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Well they both have nuclear weapons, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the start, look at WW1, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
the difference is that both Austria and Serbia other countries who said they'd fight for them
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What are relations like between British Indians and Pakistanis.
Any animosity?
If war broke out back home will Birmingham etc see any hostilities break out between them.
Hope not.😕
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India DID NOT shoot down a Pakistani fighter jet

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-magazine-says
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The return of the British Empire? 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
no thanks, that's e reason the problem started in the first place
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The Express and Zee TV are your sources?
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India were outsmarted by Pakistan and had at least one jet (and helicopter) shot down and pilot captured.

Pakistan were kind enough to return the captured pilot so India should pipe down now.

Though Pakistan needs to do much more about harbouring terrorists inside their territory.
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India were outsmarted by Pakistan and had at least one jet (and helicopter) shot down and pilot captured.

Pakistan were kind enough to return the captured pilot so India should pipe down now.

Though Pakistan needs to do much more about harbouring terrorists inside their territory.
i think the whole issue began because of those very terrorists pakistan have allowed to train in its borders, that indian planes first bombed.

let it never be forgotten that britains worst islamist terrorists were trained in pakistan funded camps
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i think the whole issue began because of those very terrorists pakistan have allowed to train in its borders, that indian planes first bombed.

let it never be forgotten that britains worst islamist terrorists were trained in pakistan funded camps
Most Islamist terrorists across the world were radicalised by Saudi-funded Wahhabi mosques, not by Pakistan.

Pakistan can't adequately control its territory and has failed to remove terrorist elements from enjoying safe harbour in Pakistan, that's true.
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Most Islamist terrorists across the world were radicalised by Saudi-funded Wahhabi mosques, not by Pakistan.

Pakistan can't adequately control its territory and has failed to remove terrorist elements from enjoying safe harbour in Pakistan, that's true.
nonnsense - the population of saudi is tiny comared to other muslims countries. most islamic terrorists globally are not saudi resident.

all london 7/7 bombers were trained there as well as various al queda affiate suicide bombers that have launched attacks in europe and asia

if you mean these were probably funded by saudi, welll the entire pakistani economy is basically propped up by saudi arabia.
pakistan has had no intention of removing its terrorist groups - they have been there for dacades and allowed pakistan to continue waging a proxy war over kashmir with india without facing the military defeats of the past. bin laden enjoyed the use of this terrorist network, hiding in a Hizbul Mujahideen run compund, 4 miles away from a majorPakistani military intellgence headquarters aparantly 'without pakistans knowledge'
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nonnsense - the population of saudi is tiny comared to other muslims countries. most islamic terrorists globally are not saudi resident.

all london 7/7 bombers were trained there as well as various al queda affiate suicide bombers that have launched attacks in europe and asia
The vast majority of the 9/11 terrorist hijackers were indeed Saudi citizens (15 out of 19, to be exact).

But I didn't say most terrorists are Saudis, I said most Islamist terrorists were/are "radicalised by Saudi-funded Wahhabi mosques". The cleric that radicalised the 7/7 bombers learnt his Islam in Saudi Arabia on a Saudi-scholarship.

Saudi Arabia's global funding of Wahhabism has spread the tentacles of its extremist form of Islam into all corners of the world and is responsible for the majority of Salafist terrorism globally. Pakistan is a problem, but it's just a pawn for the real mastermind and source of global terrorism: the artificial entity of Wahhabistan.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...before-77.html
https://www.france24.com/en/20160729...cularism-islam
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lol saudi doesnt fund "wahhabi" mosques which cause terrorism
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lol saudi doesnt fund "wahhabi" mosques which cause terrorism
Unfortunately for you, that's a falsifiable proposition.

If that were the case, why did the Belgian government retake control of the Brussels Grand Mosque from the Saudi regime? Proposition, falsified.

Further evidence:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv62hg2h
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...wahhabism.html
https://www.amazon.com/Wahhabi-Code-.../dp/1628729716
https://events.kcrw.com/events/saudi...-of-extremism/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern..._and_Wahhabism
https://www.academia.edu/34759651/Wa...y_Saudi_Arabia
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4355527...n_tab_contents
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1PJ23J
https://medium.com/@manchesterweekly...h-932b58291156
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...inds-1.3144020
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what is wahhaism
if its the followers of sheikh muhammad ibn abd al wahhab and aimmah najd then anyone with any knowledge of his revival and of the reality of the saudi regime will know that saudi arabia has nothing to do with this and are far away from the teachings of muhammad ibn abd al wahhab


im not gunna bother reading all of them but i literally clicked on the funder of extremism one and its just a bunch of claims saying "exporting wahhabism" which seems like nonsense they might be funding organisations which promote a ""strict"" "version" of islam but they are far from the teachings of the scholars of najd

"It argues that Saudi Islamic charitable groups have tended to fund Wahhabist ideology. Some of Britain’s most prominent extremist preachers such as Abu Qatada, Abu Hamza, Abdullah al Faisal and Shiekh Omar Bakri have all sat within what can be described as a broadly Wahhabi/Salafi ideology, the report says."

all of these scholars were warned against by saudi scholars
theres a difference between saudi salafism and classical salafism

saudi exports their own madkhali version which is the more prominent "type" of "salafism"
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what is wahhaism
if its the followers of sheikh muhammad ibn abd al wahhab and aimmah najd then anyone with any knowledge of his revival and of the reality of the saudi regime will know that saudi arabia has nothing to do with this and are far away from the teachings of muhammad ibn abd al wahhab


im not gunna bother reading all of them but i literally clicked on the funder of extremism one and its just a bunch of claims saying "exporting wahhabism" which seems like nonsense they might be funding organisations which promote a ""strict"" "version" of islam but they are far from the teachings of the scholars of najd

"It argues that Saudi Islamic charitable groups have tended to fund Wahhabist ideology. Some of Britain’s most prominent extremist preachers such as Abu Qatada, Abu Hamza, Abdullah al Faisal and Shiekh Omar Bakri have all sat within what can be described as a broadly Wahhabi/Salafi ideology, the report says."

all of these scholars were warned against by saudi scholars
theres a difference between saudi salafism and classical salafism

saudi exports their own madkhali version which is the more prominent "type" of "salafism"
why is a surprise to you that Saudi does this - 1300 years ago Saudi ( and Persia ) conquered the current muslim world, they are just trying to maintain control of the their empire
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why is a surprise to you that Saudi does this - 1300 years ago Saudi ( and Persia ) conquered the current muslim world, they are just trying to maintain control of the their empire
Saudi? Saudi Arabia is an artificial entity that didn't even exist until 1932, before then it was a bunch of separate desert-dwelling clans.
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