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Guyz currently Brexit is a hot topic. Ive got even a case study under this topic. So plz comment whatever you all know and think abt Brexit.
Should it happen?
Should it be stopped?
Advantages and Disadvantages, London get it Brexit happens.

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Shouldn’t happen .

Should be stopped .

Very divisive for Britain if we don’t leave because Leave Campaign will feel let down.
No Deal would leave Britain with low economic growth in the short and long term, as the Brexit Secretary has said.
Mps keep on rejecting the only deal on the table, and Labour keep on rejecting everything saying that their deal is the best even though it has been rejected in Parliament twice now. Conservatives can not get a majority in Parliament even though their deal is what I personally think that the people voted for.
Reply 4
For the sake of Democracy, it has to be realistically implemented. If it isn't, a very high number of people outside the metropolitan bubbles is going to lose faith on the political class once and for all and both Con and Lab run a very real and serious risk risk of being decimated in the heartlands. Nothing like radio shows where people from all over ring in in a fit, of both colours, reveals the real picture. The public feedback at national level is nothing like in London.

Political cowardice has consistently kept the crucial issue of freedom of movement out of sight but a customs union means it will remain as it is and that will be a bomb in the areas where the main issue was just that. It is ignored by spineless politicos or those intent or reversing Brexit, nobody has the balls to assume that they are advocating it further but they'll run out of time on that one. The consequences are anybody's guess.

To ignore the mood outside the M25 is pointless, we know what that attitude has already led to. What there is to learn from all this is that this ship is rudderless, the type of sobering thought that calls for a stiff drink. It's even impossible to predict what the outcome of a general election would deliver, either the loony left or the Lib Dems. Were we to have one and the pandemonium would just be total.
Reply 5
Original post by TensorTympani
Mps keep on rejecting the only deal on the table...

And then say we can't leave without one.
Reply 6
Original post by Nasif.
Guyz currently Brexit is a hot topic. Ive got even a case study under this topic. So plz comment whatever you all know and think abt Brexit.
Should it happen?
Should it be stopped?
Advantages and Disadvantages, London get it Brexit happens.


It will happen. Referendum result cannot be ignored.
Reply 7
Thanks for everyone and expecting more details. 👌🏻👌🏻
Reply 8
Except it can because it is basically a poll of opinion and not remotely legally binding.
Original post by mgi
It will happen. Referendum result cannot be ignored.
Original post by z-hog
And then say we can't leave without one.

Yes and rejecting everything also not being able to reach a majority on anything.
Original post by z-hog
For the sake of Democracy, it has to be realistically implemented. If it isn't, a very high number of people outside the metropolitan bubbles is going to lose faith on the political class once and for all and both Con and Lab run a very real and serious risk risk of being decimated in the heartlands. Nothing like radio shows where people from all over ring in in a fit, of both colours, reveals the real picture. The public feedback at national level is nothing like in London.

Political cowardice has consistently kept the crucial issue of freedom of movement out of sight but a customs union means it will remain as it is and that will be a bomb in the areas where the main issue was just that. It is ignored by spineless politicos or those intent or reversing Brexit, nobody has the balls to assume that they are advocating it further but they'll run out of time on that one. The consequences are anybody's guess.

To ignore the mood outside the M25 is pointless, we know what that attitude has already led to. What there is to learn from all this is that this ship is rudderless, the type of sobering thought that calls for a stiff drink. It's even impossible to predict what the outcome of a general election would deliver, either the loony left or the Lib Dems. Were we to have one and the pandemonium would just be total.


This reads like someone who has paid no attention to political developments in the past two years and is still just repeating old cliches.
Original post by Molseh
Except it can because it is basically a poll of opinion and not remotely legally binding.


And? The government sent round a leaflet saying it would implement the result. Having a vote in which if a result goes a certain way you won’t honour is pointless. Legally binding or not you needn’t to implement the results of referenda, otherwise it’s pointless to have them.
Reply 12
Original post by anarchism101
This reads like someone who has paid no attention to political developments in the past two years and is still just repeating old cliches.

Yes, and that reads like someone who lives in a parallel universe and who has no interest whatsoever in what happens in the real world.
Original post by z-hog
Yes, and that reads like someone who lives in a parallel universe and who has no interest whatsoever in what happens in the real world.

there will be widespread disorder if the wretched referendumb decision is not implemented convincingly. already various Brexit ******s have disrupted the rail network by climbing onto station roofs and placing objects on lines.
Original post by Nasif.
Guyz currently Brexit is a hot topic. Ive got even a case study under this topic. So plz comment whatever you all know and think abt Brexit.
Should it happen?
Should it be stopped?
Advantages and Disadvantages, London get it Brexit happens.


phahahahahahahahahahahahaha government stop procrastinating and just admit that the vote was a mistake and we should stay!!!!
Reply 15
Original post by the bear
there will be widespread disorder if the wretched referendumb decision is not implemented convincingly. already various Brexit ******s have disrupted the rail network by climbing onto station roofs and placing objects on lines.

Conservatives will be tearing up their cards to shreds, only thing that may move them out of the door at the next general will be the even worse scenario of the loony left in power. Glad I don't have to do it, they are an absolute shower but so are all others.
Reply 16
Literally everything about Brexit is pointless, so that would be nothing new.
Original post by Andrew97
And? The government sent round a leaflet saying it would implement the result. Having a vote in which if a result goes a certain way you won’t honour is pointless. Legally binding or not you needn’t to implement the results of referenda, otherwise it’s pointless to have them.
Reply 17
Original post by rosegg_015
phahahahahahahahahahahahaha government stop procrastinating and just admit that the vote was a mistake and we should stay!!!!


Obviously things are not that simple; there is a wide range of opinions on this topic across the nation and parliament. I think cross party debate is the way forward for this country rather than a virtually 2 party state; maybe that is what Brexit is teaching us.
Reply 18
Original post by Andrew97
And? The government sent round a leaflet saying it would implement the result.

And the government always does what it says it will do in leaflets sent out before votes.
:facepalm2:

Having a vote in which if a result goes a certain way you won’t honour is pointless.
Legally binding or not you needn’t to implement the results of referenda, otherwise it’s pointless to have them.

The government and parliament is obliged to act in the nation's best interests. If a particular version of Brexit is not in the nation's best interests, it is not obliged to implement it. That is part of the "parliamentary sovereignty" and "taking back control" that Leavers voted for. They can't then complain when parliament exercises them.

Remember that parliament has voted against cancelling Brexit. It is merely attempting to arrive at the least damaging Brexit that has the support of the house.

It's like the parents trying to arrange a birthday party for the child who is demanding unicorns and Ariana Grande and Gucci party bags. When they tell her that it just isn't possible, she stamps her feet as screams "BUT YOU PROMISED ME A PARTY!!!"
Reply 19
Original post by z-hog
Yes, and that reads like someone who lives in a parallel universe and who has no interest whatsoever in what happens in the real world.

That doesn't make any sense. You are the one ignoring the events and developments of the last 3 years. That is "living in a parallel universe and having no interest whatsoever in what happens in the real world."

Yes, the Leave vote gained a small majority is an advisory referendum. But that was nearly 3 years ago, since when the Leave campaign since been convicted of breaking election laws, most of the claims made by Leave campaigners were lies, it has become clear that there is no agreement of how we should Leave, the economic implications are damaging, etc, etc.
There really is no logical or reasonable argument for continuing to force Brexit through. Simply chanting the mantra of "We won, get over it" is not even an argument, but if it was it would be meaningless.

So, other than the historical result of a now redundant public opinion exercise, what reason is there for leaving the EU?

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