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Going to Uni vs Not going to Uni

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Reply 20
I am defo taking a gap year. Got onto the Deloitte Scholars scheme, so will be working there which will be a great experience but not sure if it is what I want to do.

In all honesty, I am not motivated by the idea of further study. The only reason I want to go to university is to improve my job prospects (I hated Warwick, so wont be going there) and I am not sure if that is a good enough reason for me to give up three years of my life.
firesuite
What subject do you want to do?

If it's some crap subject like History or English then don't bother because it'll get you nowhere.


How exactly are they useless degrees?

I think the experience makes it worth it, but it depends what sort of person you are. I bet whoever it was that said the experience is overrated doesn't really enjoy doing all the crazy stuff that usually goes on at uni.

However, that figure about graduates earning 40% more will probably decrease as more and more people get degrees.
Reply 22
*pitseleh*
Which is, of course, why every single one of the English/History graduates I know is now happily employed or in further study, with the majority being employed.


I'm glad they are employed but they could have landed that role as shop assistant without going to university.
Reply 23
Officer Dibble
How exactly are they useless degrees?



No use in the real world.
Reply 24
At risk of sounding incredibly pretentious (I am sure plenty of neg rep awaits me), I just don't see the value of going to university. In the nicest way possible, I know some real idiots who have gone to university (don't get me wrong, they have just as much right as me or anyone else to go) and it just puts me off. If university was something that people thought 'wow he went to university' about then I would probably really want to go. But everyone does it these days, and I want to feel special :redface: .
nexttime
well i would have thought that not having large amounts of debt would also allow you to 'live a little'. you know, buy your own home at like 21 instead of 28 or so would have its advantages...


Unless you're very lucky, you're not likely to get more than £15,000 for your first full-time job (outside London, that is). Many people start on far less than that. Assuming you'd be able to get a mortgage of around three times your wage, you're looking at £45,000 (£60,000 would be the absolute maximum, but it's unlikely that you'd be offered that sort of sum). What on earth is £45,000 going to get you by way of a house? You wouldn't even get a poky one-bed flat where I live for that sort of money.

Even if your wages went up a bit between the ages of 18 and 21, they'd be unlikely to go up enough for you to be able to afford a decent mortgage in that period.
firesuite
No use in the real world.

Again: how?

A degree doesn't have to relate 100% to your career. It can sometimes just show employers that you have the ability to reason, produce a lot of work, think logically etc.


Buying a house with less than 300 pounds a week is very optimistic, to say the least.
firesuite
I'm glad they are employed but they could have landed that role as shop assistant without going to university.


Er.. what? :rolleyes:

The majority are teaching; others are in a range of journalistic/PR/media careers and one is just completing a Law conversion course.
Reply 29
*pitseleh*
Unless you're very lucky, you're not likely to get more than £15,000 for your first full-time job (outside London, that is). Many people start on far less than that. Assuming you'd be able to get a mortgage of around three times your wage, you're looking at £45,000 (£60,000 would be the absolute maximum, but it's unlikely that you'd be offered that sort of sum). What on earth is £45,000 going to get you by way of a house? You wouldn't even get a poky one-bed flat where I live for that sort of money.

Even if your wages went up a bit between the ages of 18 and 21, they'd be unlikely to go up enough for you to be able to afford a decent mortgage in that period.


k the person i know is on bout 20k, with sharp increases coming his way. he's saving up almost all of that money to reduce the size of the mortgage needed. he could probably go up to 200k or so, which isn't that bad. of course, not everybody will be this lucky, it depends on what job you get.
Reply 30
tomoli
At risk of sounding incredibly pretentious (I am sure plenty of neg rep awaits me), I just don't see the value of going to university. In the nicest way possible, I know some real idiots who have gone to university (don't get me wrong, they have just as much right as me or anyone else to go) and it just puts me off. If university was something that people thought 'wow he went to university' about then I would probably really want to go. But everyone does it these days, and I want to feel special :redface: .


Tell that to my graduate job contract which pays more than 40K a year.
nexttime
k the person i know is on bout 20k, with sharp increases coming his way. he's saving up almost all of that money to reduce the size of the mortgage needed. he could probably go up to 200k or so, which isn't that bad. of course, not everybody will be this lucky, it depends on what job you get.


Exactly - that's what I was getting at when I said you needed to be lucky. :smile: Sounds like your friend really landed on his feet - but unfortunately most people find it difficult to find opportunities like that.

:frown:
Reply 32
*pitseleh*
Exactly - that's what I was getting at when I said you needed to be lucky. :smile: Sounds like your friend really landed on his feet - but unfortunately most people find it difficult to find opportunities like that.

:frown:


he planned it before he left school before GCSE exams. compared to us (as in me and his friends), he is seriously mega rich.
nexttime
he planned it before he left school before GCSE exams. compared to us (as in me and his friends), he is seriously mega rich.


Good for him! :smile: I still can't stress enough how rare this sort of thing is; but all the same, it's great that he's doing well with no formal qualifications!
Reply 34
*pitseleh*
Good for him! :smile: I still can't stress enough how rare this sort of thing is; but all the same, it's great that he's doing well with no formal qualifications!


well he has GCSE's (he just took the entry tests to do this before he'd taken them), and what he's on now is like higher national diploma or summin :s-smilie: ?
nexttime
well he has GCSE's (he just took the entry tests to do this before he'd taken them), and what he's on now is like higher national diploma or summin :s-smilie: ?


Oh, my bad - I thought you meant he left before he took his GCSEs. :smile:
Reply 36
I just quit my awful call centre job yesterday to go to uni. Upon stating my reason for leaving a team manager informed me that he studied English and Scottish Literature at Glasgow.

****.

That said, I don't particularly care about the career prospects. If my sole reason for going to university was to increase career prospects, then I would have taken a dull vocational course.
Reply 37
foxo
I just quit my awful call centre job yesterday to go to uni. Upon stating my reason for leaving a team manager informed me that he studied English and Scottish Literature at Glasgow.



So he took an English degree and ended up in a call centre?

Nice.
Reply 38
firesuite
So he took an English degree and ended up in a call centre?

Nice.


similar examples are worryingly common, resulting from the fact that the government wants 50% of people in higher education. that's why i chose medicine - i know where my life is going.
Reply 39
firesuite
So he took an English degree and ended up in a call centre?

Nice.


Unfortunately with the same course at the same university I've firmed, which has been rated 11th and 12th out of 91 in the two subject guides published this year. Hopefully he got a third. :p:

If you take a look at graduate prospects for courses, although History and English are below average they're not as glum as you make it out to be - respectively 27% and 29% enter graduate employment within 6 months, with 24% and 23% going on to further study (source). Considering at the former polytechnics and newer universities the statistics are generally poor I'm not all that worried (source).