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Hi,

Just made an account on this as I’m really struggling to choose where to study for my LLB this September.

I got all 5 offers from UCL, KCL, Nottingham, York and Newcastle, which I’m really pleased about and I’m predicted A*A*A.

I was set on going to UCL as obviously it’s a great uni with an amazing rep but looking in more depth, I’ve decided that living in London isn’t something I really want and I’ve been put off the idea of studying there for undergraduate.

York has a really cool looking course but I found the city and campus a bit isolated and dull, which means I’ve ruled them out; Nottingham has a great campus but something about it didn’t really click with me so I’m not thinking of firming them either.

That leaves me with Newcastle, which right now I’m 95% sure I’m going to firm.

The city is amazing and the student life there is meant to be unparalleled; having been there once or twice with friends, I know it’s a place I would love to live in. The law school also seems good, with an interesting course, while I just got the “feel” when I went there.

People have told me it’s not as good as my other choices and I’ll be making a mistake if I firm it which is playing in my mind a little - if I firm Newcastle would you say I’m making a wrong decision?

I know it’s not as good a law school as UCL or some of my other choices but it just clicked with me and I’d rather be happy with where I’m studying than go somewhere based on reputation.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Go with where you personally would be happy. Newcastle is still a great uni and you’ll be much more likely to do well if your in an environment your happy and comfortable in.
Reputation isn’t everything
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Hey,

I think you’re making a really mature decision by choosing your universities based on preference rather than reputation. I live in London and the way the unis are spead around the city here is not for everyone. Though UCL is obviously more reputable which will definetly help when trying to get training contracts, Newcastle is still a russell group and your still in a strong position. I would think about if you want to practice law after you’ve studied it and employment rate for each uni.Hope this helps!
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You absolutely are making the right choice. I have offers for law from both Durham and LSE. Obviously, for law, LSE is more reputable but after speaking to many people I don't think I'd enjoy it, and wouldn't have the 'uni experience'.
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(Original post by henleykt)
Go with where you personally would be happy. Newcastle is still a great uni and you’ll be much more likely to do well if your in an environment your happy and comfortable in.
Reputation isn’t everything
Thank you

I do feel I’d be happiest at Newcastle and it’s environment, which is what matters most to me.
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Hey,

I think you’re making a really mature decision by choosing your universities based on preference rather than reputation. I live in London and the way the unis are spead around the city here is not for everyone. Though UCL is obviously more reputable which will definetly help when trying to get training contracts, Newcastle is still a russell group and your still in a strong position. I would think about if you want to practice law after you’ve studied it and employment rate for each uni.Hope this helps!
Thank you

Exactly - I mean I’m very grateful to have received an offer to study at UCL as it’s a fantastic uni but in hindsight I just don’t think it’s the right place for me.

Newcastle is my favourite by quite a distance but I’m just concerned that as someone with quite high ambitions that it isn’t quite on the level as my other choices. That doesn’t matter massively but I don’t want to feel as if I’m wasting an opportunity that I’ll later regret.
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You absolutely are making the right choice. I have offers for law from both Durham and LSE. Obviously, for law, LSE is more reputable but after speaking to many people I don't think I'd enjoy it, and wouldn't have the 'uni experience'.
Well done - they’re both very good unis

I think there’s less of a difference between LSE and Durham compared to UCL and Newcastle though! Durham is still a fantastic place to study.
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Thank you

I do feel I’d be happiest at Newcastle and it’s environment, which is what matters most to me.
I’m from Newcastle! I live here and I’m planning on going to Newcastle university even though I got an offer from USL, if your interested in having a good uni life as well as good education Newcastle is deffo the right choice!! UP THE NORTH
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Well done - they’re both very good unis

I think there’s less of a difference between LSE and Durham compared to UCL and Newcastle though! Durham is still a fantastic place to study.
Yeah I'm very grateful That's a good point; however remember that although UCL may have better career help & lecturer's than Newcastle, if you work really hard and, for arguments sake, get a 1st at Newcastle, if anything, that'll seem more impressive than getting a 1st at UCL because it shows that all of your hard work was down to you and not with the aid of renowned academics. I spoke to a friend who's done everything (worked for oxford uni, UCL, the UN, the World Bank etc.) and he said London schools & oxbridge are better for doing master's degrees. It sounds cliche but uni will be some of the best years of your life, London is so expensive, you'll find it hard to socialise (as there's no campus or common rooms) and the pressure will very high.

It's up to you there's pros and cons of both. But, just for reference, my friend I mentioned earlier did an undergrad law degree at a regular uni (may not have even been a Russel Group) and last week he flew out to Brussels to give an advisory lecture to the EU. It's much more about your work ethic rather than the place you're studying
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I made a similar decision. I declined LSE for BSc Economics and placed Warwick as my firm choice. Whilst I'm sure the experience at LSE isn't as bad as is suggested, both by league tables and current students, I decided I'd much prefer Warwick for its student satisfaction and far superior teaching standards in the Economics department.
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You absolutely are making the right choice. I have offers for law from both Durham and LSE. Obviously, for law, LSE is more reputable but after speaking to many people I don't think I'd enjoy it, and wouldn't have the 'uni experience'.
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I’m from Newcastle! I live here and I’m planning on going to Newcastle university even though I got an offer from USL, if your interested in having a good uni life as well as good education Newcastle is deffo the right choice!! UP THE NORTH
Did you mean UCL? 😂

And it definitely seems like the perfect student experience I have to say!
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Yeah I'm very grateful That's a good point; however remember that although UCL may have better career help & lecturer's than Newcastle, if you work really hard and, for arguments sake, get a 1st at Newcastle, if anything, that'll seem more impressive than getting a 1st at UCL because it shows that all of your hard work was down to you and not with the aid of renowned academics. I spoke to a friend who's done everything (worked for oxford uni, UCL, the UN, the World Bank etc.) and he said London schools & oxbridge are better for doing master's degrees. It sounds cliche but uni will be some of the best years of your life, London is so expensive, you'll find it hard to socialise (as there's no campus or common rooms) and the pressure will very high.

It's up to you there's pros and cons of both. But, just for reference, my friend I mentioned earlier did an undergrad law degree at a regular uni (may not have even been a Russel Group) and last week he flew out to Brussels to give an advisory lecture to the EU. It's much more about your work ethic rather than the place you're studying
That’s great advice actually - I think it’s all those factors that are putting me off London and I think I’m just better suited to Newcastle.

I think having a feeling for a place is much more important than reputation.
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Yeah hahaha autocorrect!! 😂 but yeah honestly any advice I can give is go with what u feel happiest
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I made a similar decision. I declined LSE for BSc Economics and placed Warwick as my firm choice. Whilst I'm sure the experience at LSE isn't as bad as is suggested, both by league tables and current students, I decided I'd much prefer Warwick for its student satisfaction and far superior teaching standards in the Economics department.
Warwick is above LSE in the rankings and still an excellent uni so not sure it’s really that similar 😂

It’s third in the country!!
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I wouldn’t say you’re making a mistake.

Newcastle is a good university — yes, it may be less academic, less prestigious and have worse students than UCL but if you get a 1st or high 2:1, there’s nothing stopping you from achieving the high ambitions which I imagine you have with a degree from there.

If you don’t want to live in London, there’s no point of studying there just because the uni has a better reputation as this matters a lot less compared to how much you enjoy your uni experience. A 1st or 2:1 from Newcastle looks much better than a 2:2 from UCL doesn’t it?

Same goes with York and Notts - if you don’t feel you’d enjoy them as much as you would Newcastle, don’t put them.

It’s a good university that can get you wherever you want, so long as your work ethic is great.
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Although it's great to enjoy the City, if you're choosing Newcastle for a good night out then you're probably going to run into trouble at some point. If you go, just remember what your priorities are.
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Thanks for reopening the thread.

As I said in a PM to the OP, the universities are very different. UCL would be better if you need people to motivate you along the way - it’s got that competitive energy vibe to it, partly fuelled by the number of rich/super rich international students trying to live up to the expectations of their successful families.

Newcastle will be much more relaxed and won’t have that same vibe to it. It’s great if you don’t want to be caught up in that energy, but at the same time you will need to be far mor proactive and self sufficient to get the opportunities the UCL students will be presented with. There will be well off kids from the Home Counties at Newcastle, but typically they have chosen Newcastle to get away from the environment (and the grasps of their parents). You won’t get the same group mentality at Newcastle, but that could actually be a good thing.

But it really depends on what you are aiming for post graduating. If you are aiming for the elite of elite careers in London, then go to UCL and be willing to potentially sacrifice your happiness for 3 years for the bigger long term goal. If you just want a good job post graduating, then go to Newcastle - 99% of recruiters out there won’t care the difference between Newcastle or UCL. It’s only if you are aiming for the 1% that it could pose an issue (but even then you could do a PG degree at UCL).
Thank you, that’s really appreciated (as well as the personal message )

I do have high aspirations (hence why I’m predicted A*A*A) and applied to UCL etc but I want to enjoy my uni experience more than anything and just think the atmosphere and the overall experience would be much better for me in Newcastle than it would London/UCL.

I’d ideally like to go into some of the elite firms in London and I hope this would be possible with a degree from Newcastle - it might make it harder but I’m driven and able to motivate myself when I really want something.

People have told me “Newcastle’s a clearing uni”, “there will be BCC students there”, which is a bit off putting but at the end of the day they don’t determine my success.
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Although it's great to enjoy the City, if you're choosing Newcastle for a good night out then you're probably going to run into trouble at some point. If you go, just remember what your priorities are.
A good night out isn’t really factoring into my plans, I just think in hindsight a London uni experience wouldn’t be for me.

In the future it’s something I’d perhaps like to experience but for undergraduate studies not really.
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It’s true - there will be more BBC students there compared to UCL (UCL won’t be immune to the odd student with lesser grades).

Most students at Newcastle won’t have any aspirations to work in London. The majority will want to stay in the North East. There will be a small amount of people from the Home Counties who will, but typically they will be the ones with lesser grades and would probably struggle getting into the elite firms if they haven’t got AAB (or above).

That means you won’t get the same kind of support as someone would at UCL. Whether it be fewer careers events, a less knowledgable careers service/academics, or fewer peers to support you in your career aspirations, that will all limit the opportunities you are presented with. You will just have to make your own opportunities.
Would the same be said of York and UCL?

York’s come into my thinking a bit more today - is it somewhere that will present me with more opportunities when compared to Newcastle?
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Is york diverse? As a Brit south Asian, l, I would like to Idk be in a ethically diverse uni. For these reasons I actually stopped myself from putting Exeter down as my firm as the BME % is very very low. I’m visiting York soon and am worried that I’ll be taking an expensive visit to see the same thing 😬
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