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nope
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Well what’s his strategy. His party have had all this time to come up with a solution thats realistic and satisfactory to the result of the referendum. Other than that if he was in power he’d face the exact same problems of which he’s stated no real solution
he is not actually the prime minister so should it truly be all his responsibility what about Theresa may job as she was the one elected not Corbyn shes the one whos had all this time to come up a solution but has she no we are the laughing stock of Europe if may cannot handle it which she clearly cant is it not fair to say things cant get any worse if Jeremy Corbyn was to become prime minister
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he is not actually the prime minister so should it truly be all his responsibility what about Theresa may job as she was the one elected not Corbyn shes the one whos had all this time to come up a solution but has she no we are the laughing stock of Europe if may cannot handle it which she clearly cant is it not fair to say things cant get any worse if Jeremy Corbyn was to become prime minister
Regardless, of whether he is the prime minister, as the Leader of the Official Opposition, he is under a moral and legal duty to scrutinise the government's proposals, and be ready to advance and implement his own, if the former were to fail. In recent weeks, we have seen that he has simply failed in said duty: first, proposing a Brexit deal that would be far, far worse than the status quo and something that no one would have voted for; second, by his lacklustre backing of a confirmatory referendum.

Yes, May's handling of Brexit is poor at best...things can certainly get worse with JC...not just in terms of Brexit....
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Regardless, of whether he is the prime minister, as the Leader of the Official Opposition, he is under a moral and legal duty to scrutinise the government's proposals, and be ready to advance and implement his own, if the former were to fail. In recent weeks, we have seen that he has simply failed in said duty: first, proposing a Brexit deal that would be far, far worse than the status quo and something that no one would have voted for; second, by his lacklustre backing of a confirmatory referendum.

Yes, May's handling of Brexit is poor at best...things can certainly get worse with JC...not just in terms of Brexit....
If not just in terms of Brexit then how else do you believe he could possibly fail if prime minister
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If not just in terms of Brexit then how else do you believe he could possibly fail if prime minister
Economically, some of his policies are simply not based on reason and logic; notably, the abolition of tuition fees which would work to reduce, and not improve, social mobility, de facto forcing those who are unsure about university and who would otherwise be better suited to vocational education to university. By the same token of thought, reversing Universal Credit reform: thereby, further creating unemployment and poverty traps.

Corbyn has lurched the Labour Party to the left, at a time when the centreground is more necessary than ever. I know life-long Labour supporters who cannot support the Party they grew up in because of him, but I also know a variety of individuals who have jumped on the 'Momentum' bandwagon to support JC.
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(Original post by ClareGraceHunter)
he is not actually the prime minister so should it truly be all his responsibility what about Theresa may job as she was the one elected not Corbyn shes the one whos had all this time to come up a solution but has she no we are the laughing stock of Europe if may cannot handle it which she clearly cant is it not fair to say things cant get any worse if Jeremy Corbyn was to become prime minister
Aye so he can’t claim the moral high ground then can he if he has no feasible alternative solution. Which he doesn’t.
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Corbyn wants to leave the EU because he's a socialist, and hence is at odds with the bureaucratic, capitalist nature of the EU. The official Labour policy is to respect the result of the referendum, and they barely support a 2nd referendum. And that means that the EU elections are really being contested between Brexit Party (blech), UKIP (double blech), Tories (blech for both brexiteers, the left-wing and those who despise the way the government have handled brexit) and all the other left-wing, centrist and remainer parties (Greens, Lib Dem, Change UK [formerly The Independent Group]) who end up splitting the vote between themselves, with Labour only able to get 22% of votes in a April 16--17th YouGov poll.

This division between the left-wing (with Labour not backing Remain, and the remainer parties being divided between themselves along tribalist politics, and can't effectively ally with eachother or agree to not challenge the same seats) will end the Remain party.

Corbyn has quite possibly handed Brexiteers the UK's seats at the European Parliament once again so he can create a socialist utopia for him and the Labour party... which could never happen because his inactivity and willingness to let Brexit happen will cripple the country, and likely fracture the Labour Remain Backbenchers and the hardline Corbyn supporters who want socialism in the UK.

TL;DR: have fun, right wing, we just upped and handed you the win here.
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Corbyn could never manage the job. He's full of waffle. Although tbf so are all the other party leaders. Think we need a whole new government tbh. They've really f***ed up our country now.
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While some people may feel this way, don't you think he has shown antisemitic views which makes him insensitive towards certain communities?
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He has good plans and ideologies, he's a strong leader and a convincing public speaker who balances passion and emotion with logic and reasoning. He would get us out of this Brexit mess.
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Also, regarding brexit- it is such a mess I'm not sure any pm could get us out of it!
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