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(Original post by Tarantula man)
The country voted to get out
Not for a deal. Don't want a deal or we still be tired to them!! We want out.
Do deals later. They will still want to sell there cars and stuff to us
Get out No deal
fair point but we should not hav voted out because of war and donald trump got there but he only may have done something bad to do so
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Great. Let's pay way more for out food whilst creating even more co2 emissions getting it here? Come to think of it, perhaps I should do my weekly shop from a supermarket 200 miles away?!
And pay less for many other products when we have the ability to control non EU import taxes.

Back to food maybe home grow more and invest in our own country - imagine that.
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(Original post by Tarantula man)
Life saving drugs .Do you really
Think this country is so stupid and useless? Such drugs are available from other parts of the world
Even Russia. Besides. Do you really think they will stop trading with us?
BMW . Mercedes. Voltswagens.
Audi. Etc .you think they stop selling there cars to us? What do other none EU countries do for drugs ?
You worry for nothing.
There are 27/28 countries in EU
About ,180 countries in the world!
This country is not stupid.
Do not underestimate our capabilities
Even America has all the drugs we need
America also has poor food hygiene standards compared to the EU, which they will expect us to incorporate in return for a trade deal. A trade deal that is necessary for frictionless trade of these life saving drugs.

If you like chlorine-washed chicken and pork washed with lactic acid, both methods which are less effective than our current method, then sure.

If this country is not stupid it would not be leaving the union where the majority of imports/exports are from. You don't even know exactly how many countries are in the European Union, scary! There are currently 28 countries in the EU including the UK. The other 27 EU countries are just laughing at us, they know how ridiculous Brexit is.

You'll probably say "Go WTO"
So basically you're going from the EU which has an elected parliament (apparently they're all unelected bureaucrats according to you leavers, although the queen isn't elected nor is the cabinet, house of commons/lords leader in the UK yet nobody is bothered by that), to an organisation that is run by unelected bureaucrats? What a joke, I bet in 2016 most leavers didn't even have a clue what WTO was, let alone any of the tariffs or rules, most probably still don't! Advocating an idea when they don't even know what it involves, yet apparently this country is not stupid?
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(Original post by ByEeek)
Great. Let's pay way more for out food whilst creating even more co2 emissions getting it here? Come to think of it, perhaps I should do my weekly shop from a supermarket 200 miles away?!
Well that’s the point it comes from those far away places already because it is a lower cost.

As for it’s carbon footprint then if that is a concern for you then it should be grown here then
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Well that’s the point it comes from those far away places already because it is a lower cost.

As for it’s carbon footprint then if that is a concern for you then it should be grown here then
We can do it ourselves, but we are all unskilled useless racist right wing fools

The point that remainers will make is we can't home grow certain foods, however even as Europe we can't home grow all our food either!

We own Europe nothing, we created what we have not our European partners who are much more used to dictatorship. Democracy is about being free to get rid of, change, endorse or shape governments, so I ask you how do you get rid of European commission?
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America also has poor food hygiene standards compared to the EU, which they will expect us to incorporate in return for a trade deal. A trade deal that is necessary for frictionless trade of these life saving drugs.

If you like chlorine-washed chicken and pork washed with lactic acid, both methods which are less effective than our current method, then sure.

If this country is not stupid it would not be leaving the union where the majority of imports/exports are from. You don't even know exactly how many countries are in the European Union, scary! There are currently 28 countries in the EU including the UK. The other 27 EU countries are just laughing at us, they know how ridiculous Brexit is.

You'll probably say "Go WTO"
So basically you're going from the EU which has an elected parliament (apparently they're all unelected bureaucrats according to you leavers, although the queen isn't elected nor is the cabinet, house of commons/lords leader in the UK yet nobody is bothered by that), to an organisation that is run by unelected bureaucrats? What a joke, I bet in 2016 most leavers didn't even have a clue what WTO was, let alone any of the tariffs or rules, most probably still don't! Advocating an idea when they don't even know what it involves, yet apparently this country is not stupid?
Assumption is mother of all **** ups
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(Original post by ByEeek)
But it isn't just about you buying assembled tools from China. What about companies that buy specialist stuff delivered just-in-time? What about all the food we import by truck. Are you going to start flying in onions from China? The point is that our whole way of life depends on trade with the EU. It is unseen and hidden but it is there. And folks like you want to rip that to pieces with the simple reassurance that it will be ok. It really won't be ok. Why? Because everyone who has to deal with the reality is saying so.

For example, what about those who depend on drugs from the EU?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8855131.html
You living in cloud cookoo land.
Yes we do trade with the EU.
But you cannot see further than the EU. You got Tunnel vision!
What do you think the none EU countries do?? Starve? Go without?
I don't think so. And as I said even with no deal. The EU will not want to stop trading with us .it's not in there
Interest. They can still trade with us
But it will be on our terms. If not there are a lot none EU countries to trade with. When we leave and do ok
Others will follow
You have so little faith in your country. I assume it's you country??
Think about how many none EU countries there are...............
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Same old crap... I won the referendum cup 3 yrs back so if I'm no longer recognised as the greatest team in the world. You haven't won a single match since!!! You guys just need men on horses with big sticks. You are nothing more than the thug rule of the 70's.
Ding dong irony bell
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Ok..... tell your MP then
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Tell my MP????
What MP is that who might listen.
He might if he thought it might line his pocket a bit. Cannot think of any MP that is any good. That does not lie all as bad as each other.
The country said OUT
But look where we are now.
MP,s could not organise a piss up in a brewery.
Live in hope
The only thing certain in this world is that the sun will come up in the morning. and a few other things.
So hold on and see what happens.
I am sure the Uk will fine.
We shall see. Looking at some of the none EU countries, they on the whole seem to be doing ok . Give or take one or two.
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(Original post by Burton Bridge)
And pay less for many other products when we have the ability to control non EU import taxes.

Back to food maybe home grow more and invest in our own country - imagine that.
We already do. Our farms are some of the most efficient in the world. How about that? However it has been several hundred years since we were self sufficient. It isn't going to happen any time soon. And Brexit is going to shaft our farmers as the European market for the cuts of meat Brits don't want will be closed meaning British grown meat becomes more expensive or simply totally unviable.
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You living in cloud cookoo land.
Yes we do trade with the EU.
But you cannot see further than the EU. You got Tunnel vision!
What do you think the none EU countries do?? Starve? Go without?
I don't think so. And as I said even with no deal. The EU will not want to stop trading with us .it's not in there
Interest. They can still trade with us
But it will be on our terms. If not there are a lot none EU countries to trade with. When we leave and do ok
Others will follow
You have so little faith in your country. I assume it's you country??
Think about how many none EU countries there are...............
I can indeed see beyond the EU. But I don't understand the clamour to close down our nearest market place in favour of foreign lands. It is like sacking off your local supermarket in favour of a more expensive one 200 miles away.

And I put it to you. We already import / export from all over the world. Why change things?
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We already do. Our farms are some of the most efficient in the world. How about that? However it has been several hundred years since we were self sufficient. It isn't going to happen any time soon. And Brexit is going to shaft our farmers as the European market for the cuts of meat Brits don't want will be closed meaning British grown meat becomes more expensive or simply totally unviable.
That's utter rubbish, your talking to a trained butcher also btw, I don't work as a butcher anymore however.

Our farmers have already been guaranteed by UK parliament that they will have their subsidiaries replaced in the event of a no-deal Brexit. Do you know about farmers getting paid from our tax money to 'rest' fields?

As for cuts of meat we don't want, what cuts of meat exactly are these? Pigs trotters maybe? You need to seriously get a grip on reality
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I don't think so. You know nothing.
You younger generation think you know it all. You too green to know the wider implementation.
You think the UK is so hopeless without the EU?
Ask yourself why more wanted out than in. It might be they know more than the rest of you!
Have more faith in your country.
We don't need the EU
Period!!!!
It’s not an inspector calls ‘the younger generation who think they know it all’ lmao. Although we could do with another Priestley...

Your arguments are unlinked and you have no evidence to back up what you’re saying. Why don’t we need the EU? What’s the ‘wider implementation’ to you?

Also in case you haven’t noticed, the UK is not the native home for many inhabitants, many of whom are not citizens and have no legal right to vote. Although some of them have/would have voted leave, there are many who would’ve voted remain. And it was barely over half the population who wanted out. I mean where’s this ton of extra money for the NHS? Food prices have gone up a lot where I live. I don’t know if some of my family will be able to remain here.

You’ve got to justify yourself if you’re trying to debate something.
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That's utter rubbish, your talking to a trained butcher also btw, I don't work as a butcher anymore however.

Our farmers have already been guaranteed by UK parliament that they will have their subsidiaries replaced in the event of a no-deal Brexit. Do you know about farmers getting paid from our tax money to 'rest' fields?

As for cuts of meat we don't want, what cuts of meat exactly are these? Pigs trotters maybe? You need to seriously get a grip on reality
Anything we don’t want to eat could be made into pet food anyway 🙄

Btw farmers must rest fields every so many years to keep them productive
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That's utter rubbish, your talking to a trained butcher also btw, I don't work as a butcher anymore however.

Our farmers have already been guaranteed by UK parliament that they will have their subsidiaries replaced in the event of a no-deal Brexit. Do you know about farmers getting paid from our tax money to 'rest' fields?

As for cuts of meat we don't want, what cuts of meat exactly are these? Pigs trotters maybe? You need to seriously get a grip on reality
I wasn't talking about subsidies. I was talking about balancing carcusses. At present, a lot of our excess meat goes to Germany. Post Brexit those exports will incur tarrifs and will be unviable. And yes, pigs trotters are part of that. But given the 100s of thousands of carcuses farmed each year, that adds up. Could your employer incur a 10% loss of income?
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Anything we don’t want to eat could be made into pet food anyway 🙄

Btw farmers must rest fields every so many years to keep them productive
Pet food manufacturers have very specific requirements. They just want any old cut of meat.

And which centuary of farming are you following. Leaving fields fallow is something industrial agriculture stopped doing years ago. That is partly the reason the soil structure in parts of the UK is shot to pieces.
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Pet food manufacturers have very specific requirements. They just want any old cut of meat.

And which centuary of farming are you following. Leaving fields fallow is something industrial agriculture stopped doing years ago. That is partly the reason the soil structure in parts of the UK is shot to pieces.
Leaving fields fallow is still a common practice and as for what the pet food industry wants, I would assume it is ANY meat that is cheap.
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I wasn't talking about subsidies. I was talking about balancing carcusses. At present, a lot of our excess meat goes to Germany. Post Brexit those exports will incur tarrifs and will be unviable. And yes, pigs trotters are part of that. But given the 100s of thousands of carcuses farmed each year, that adds up. Could your employer incur a 10% loss of income?
I know what you are talking about and frankly you are speaking about a reason to leave the EU not remain!

The deskilling of the meat trade where 'butcher's' don't know what a carcase is nevermind how to spilt it, or butcher it in various way to get various outcomes, if a butcher wants sirloin he ordered a box of sirloin and stocks a steak knife through it! He's the box meat butcher, all of a sudden 'meat cutters' on low salaries replace butcher's. Anyway that's a large topic of large depth and I won't get a response anyway, and you was taking about farmers, 'Brexit is going to shaft our farmers as the..' well they sell their carcasses to meat processing plants or butcher's shops they don't normally as a rule deal with meet at primal level. Apart from the old few with a farm shop.

What primals exactly do you think we're going to struggle to sell? I doubt there's a large demand for pig trotters in Germany, China maybe but not Germany.
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Leaving fields fallow is still a common practice and as for what the pet food industry wants, I would assume it is ANY meat that is cheap.
None of the fields in my relatives Lincolnshire farm are laid fallow. That is what fertiliser is for. And my mate works as a process engineer in the dog food business. Any cut is not acceptable as the process requires consistency in terms of fat and water content.
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