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Just a friendly pointer for those who still cling to the child like belief that Israel is somekind of democratic, pluralistic, liberal heaven.
Not to mention that Bibi has officially recruited outspoken fascists, racists and terrorists - who have been said to be worse than the PLO back in the day - into his coalition. (see second link for the article)


TEL AVIV, Israel—As night fell on Israel’s Arab cities and towns on election day earlier this week, with the final minutes of voting slipping away, a call went up from mosque minarets and pickup trucks with loudspeakers.
Turnout among Israel’s one-fifth Arab minority was lagging, and a chunk of Arab representation was on the verge of being wiped out from Israel’s parliament, the Knesset.


“Go out and fulfill your duty,” speakers blared in an eleventh-hour appeal for voters. “Go out and support the Arab parties. The parties are in danger.”
But it was too little, too late. The vote tallies later showed a dramatic drop in voter participation among Arab Israelis—a historic low of 49.1 percent, down from 63.5 percent in 2015, according to Arik Rudnitzky, a researcher at the Israel Democracy Institute and Tel Aviv University. Overall turnout was down five percentage points to 68 percent.
Now, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu poised to form yet another narrow coalition government of right-wing nationalist and religious Jewish parties, Arab representation in the Israeli parliament has been eroded and splintered. Arab citizens, meanwhile, face a crisis of confidence in their legislators and growing marginalization in Israeli politics.
“Arab politicians have already started the process of soul-searching,’’ said Lucy Aharish, an Arab Israeli television journalist, in an interview Thursday with Israel Radio.
“Arab voters not only voted no-confidence in the [Israeli electoral] system, they voted no-confidence in their representatives.”
It’s a far cry from the euphoria many Arab Israelis felt four years ago. Despite Netanyahu’s victory in 2015 and his race-baiting message to right wingers that Arabs were “streaming” to the polls, the Joint List alliance, a first-time merger of Arab parties with disparate ideologies, emerged as the third-largest faction in the parliament. It made Arabs feel like a political force capable of being a player in parliamentary politics.
The number of members of parliament from Arab-dominated parties will now drop from 13 in the outgoing parliament to 10—divided between the Hadash-Taal party and the Balad-Ram party. The total number of Arab deputies from all parties will fall from 17 to 12.
The truncated delegation of Arab legislators will sit in the opposition, alongside left-wing Zionist parties, which also suffered painful losses in the election. During the election, the centrist Blue and White party ignored outreach to Arab voters and focused on the Israeli center-right.
The Arab-dominated parties (Hadash-Taal includes one Jewish-Israeli lawmaker) have always been outsiders in Israeli politics: None has ever been invited to join a governing coalition. There was a short-lived period of cooperation between Arab parties and the government of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin during the early 1990s, when the government signed peace deals with the Palestinians. Still, many Arab Israelis would like to see their parties exercise political leverage.

“These results are a political earthquake. The achievement of four years ago, the establishment of the Joint List, has suddenly collapsed,’’ said Musa Hassdiyeh, an Arab advertising executive. “The egos of Arab legislators and political leaders were too large, and they couldn’t protect [the Joint List].”
Frustration with political leaders only partly explains the low turnout. Experts also cite frustration with Netanyahu’s nation-state law, a controversial piece of quasi-constitutional legislation passed in 2018 that emphasized Israel’s Jewish character over democracy and equality for the Arab minority.
The election campaign enhanced the feeling of insult among the Arab public. At one point, Netanyahu declared, “Israel is not a state of all its citizens … it is the nation-state of the Jewish people only.”
Netanyahu and his allies spent much of the campaign warning Israeli voters that his challenger Benny Gantz of the Blue and White party would build a coalition dependent on Arab political parties. “It’s Bibi or Tibi,” Likud politicians said, referring to parliament member Ahmed Tibi, a former aide to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat who is now with the Hadash-Taal Party.
Instead of hitting back against Netanyahu, Gantz seemed to turn his back on Arab lawmakers, vowing that he would cooperate only with “Jewish and Zionist” parties in a building a new coalition.
The final slight came on the morning of Election Day. Election observers from Netanyahu’s Likud party posted to several Arab towns arrived with hidden cameras bulging from their shirts. Videos of tense confrontations went viral on Arab social media. After the voting was finished, executives from a public relations firm working with Likud bragged that the stunt had helped lower the Arab turnout.
“This is Orwellian. This is like going back to the era of military government,” said Elie Rekhess, a professor of Israel studies at Northwestern University, referring to the first 18 years of Israel’s existence, when Arab cities lived under martial rule. “Delegitimization has never been stronger than in this election campaign: ‘Bibi or Tibi’ means you are not in the game. And not a single party said they would want them in the coalition.”
The dismal outcome will sharpen the dilemmas of Israel’s Arab community on several fronts.
It could strengthen advocates of a boycott of Israel’s political system. While opinion surveys suggest that boycott supporters account for only 10 percent of the public, there was an effective pro-boycott campaign mounted over social media during the course of the election.
“Some claim now that Arab Knesset members represent only a minority of the Arab community,’’ said Mohammad Darawshe, a political expert at the Givat Haviva Center for a Shared Society. “Very quickly, we will start hearing more people allowing themselves to be more critical of the Arab leadership—of their mere agreement to sit in the Knesset. This is a very dangerous step. It would end up in a political suicide.”
Opponents of a boycott will have to decide whether to join with voices among Jewish Zionist parties calling for greater cooperation with Arab-dominated parties as a step toward the a reincarnation of the Israeli left. Some 28 percent of the Arab vote went to Zionist parties. Tamar Zandberg, the leader of the left-wing Meretz party, credited Arab voters with ensuring her party passed the parliamentary threshold.
Arab leaders will need to strike a balance between lobbying for solutions to poverty, underdevelopment, and crime within their own communities and advocating for Palestinian brethren in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. (In the final days before the vote, Netanyahu promised to annex parts of the West Bank with Jewish settlements.)
Despite all of the polarizing rhetoric from Netanyahu and his political allies, the outgoing government allocated about $4.25 billion over five years for development, education, and infrastructure projects in neglected Arab towns and cities. Even as the prime minister has marginalized Arabs politically, Netanyahu recognizes that underemployment and physical isolation of Arab Israelis will become a long-term drag on Israel’s economy.
Arik Rudnitsky, a researcher at the Israel Democracy Institute, said it was notable that the platforms of Arab parties made scant reference to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Lawmakers recognize there’s a growing Arab middle class of pharmacists, doctors, and programmers who are increasingly looking to integrate into the Israeli mainstream.
“There are voices calling for more integration and emphasizing their Israeli identity,” said Rudnitksy, also a fellow at Tel Aviv University’s Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies. “The Palestinian ticket doesn’t work any more.”

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/15...arab-citizens/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/08...-s-terrorists/
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Netanyahu to his base on election night: the "Arabs are voting in droves".

48% of Israeli Jews want all Israeli Arabs to leave Israel.

Bibi has aligned with followers of followers of terrorist Meir Kahane (the Kach party). For context, Kahane was so racist that even the Israeli Knesset passed a new law to prevent him from being able to stand for re-election).

In Israeli society an IDF commander boasting about killing over 1000 Palestinians is what qualifies as a campaign advert.

Israeli society has a disease.
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For context, Kahane was so racist that even the Israeli Knesset passed a new law to prevent him from being able to stand for re-election).

Israeli society has a disease.
Isn't the first sentence countering the last? Israel moved to counter Kahane, so it isn't normalised in Israeli society.
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Isn't the first sentence countering the last? Israel moved to counter Kahane, so it isn't normalised in Israeli society.
Fellow MKs disapproved of his presence in the Knesset because even the US designated him as a terrorist, it was just bad PR. They had to change their electoral rules to prevent him from running because they knew he had sufficient support in the Israeli public to be re-elected.

Regardless, that was then. Now Kahane's followers have been legitimised by Bibi in a sickening display of pandering to literal far-right terrorists.

The fact that 48% of Israeli Jews support evicting all Arabs from Israel (including Israeli Arabs who Zionist apologists love to tell us are so accepted and have such a great life in Israel) shows the pervasiveness of the disease.
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Israel is for Jews only. However, they do their best to make sure that White countries are for everyone.
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Israel is for Jews only. However, they do their best to make sure that White countries are for everyone.
Shoo shoo, back to breitbart with you.
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Isn't the first sentence countering the last? Israel moved to counter Kahane, so it isn't normalised in Israeli society.
Read the article.
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Just a friendly pointer for those who still cling to the child like belief that Israel is somekind of democratic, pluralistic, liberal heaven.
has anyone ever suggested that? does that place even exist on planet earth?

a more accurate description would be a democracy with universal suffrage, that grants national status to Jews globally. It certainly isnt liberal, its more akin to the right wing trump usa in terms of its politics and heavily militarised due to its history of conflicts with surrounding arabs states and islamc terrorist groups both within and exterior to its borders.
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a more accurate description would be a democracy with universal suffrage, that grants national status to Jews globally.
“National status to Jews globally”

by this you mean a racist ethno-State built on the dispossession of land and in which half of its Jewish population have no ancestral link to the region but somehow have more rights to live on the land than Palestinians whose grandparents (etc) were born on and lived on that land for generations?
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“National status to Jews globally”

by this you mean a racist ethno-State built on the dispossession of land and in which half of its Jewish population have no ancestral link to the region but somehow have more rights to live on the land than Palestinians whose grandparents (etc) were born on and lived on that land for generations?
do you ( or various other muslim christian buddist etc 2nd gen immigrants) have any ancestral link to this country or antoehr that you claim nationality in? are you suggestting all immigrants now get stripped of their national status? ludicrous. i have as much right to be british as somomeone whose great great grand father who was born here. if we are to analyse who was there first - we would see it wasnt the arabs

as for dispossed land - this land has changed hands more times than a stolen iphone. it has been fought for and conquered consistently over th last 2000 years and the israelis jsut happen to be in possestion at this current time due to being militarily superior to all the arabs that surrounded it.
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i would have thought that they would be more punitive toward the terrorists ?

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do you ( or various other muslim christian buddist etc 2nd gen immigrants) have any ancestral link to this country or antoehr that you claim nationality in? are you suggestting all immigrants now get stripped of their national status? ludicrous. i have as much right to be british as somomeone whose great great grand father who was born here.
Are you intentionally being dense?

Nothing you wrote is even tangentially relevant to Israel being a Jewish ethno-State that gives Jews across the globe priority (in fact, a right) to seek Israeli citizenship. [No need to even mention Israel's "Nation State" law which affirms this point very clearly.]

What you wrote might at least have made some sort of sense if England had an immigration policy whereby all individuals of Anglo-Saxon ancestry had an automatic and unqualified right to British citizenship. But, obviously, that's not the case.
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Its vile. I guess the only hope is that Netanyahu should be indicted this year? The opposition is far from good even if the coalition does survive but it could be a chance for the left to begin building itself up again or at least for the Knesset to move away from plans for full annexation :/
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has anyone ever suggested that? does that place even exist on planet earth?

a more accurate description would be a democracy with universal suffrage, that grants national status to Jews globally. It certainly isnt liberal, its more akin to the right wing trump usa in terms of its politics and heavily militarised due to its history of conflicts with surrounding arabs states and islamc terrorist groups both within and exterior to its borders.
Umm yes actually.

It most certainly does not have universal suffrage. There are dozens of ways the Arabs have been gradually pushed out.
Oh please it hasn’t had a war with an Arab state in decades. That’s nothing but a false hoary old excuse.
As for terror groups? Hardly. The Palestinians can legitimately be called freedom fighters whether you like it or not.
Fun fact for you though, did you know that Israel and isis hold almost exactly the same National template? An ethno religious state intent on expanding its boarders and importing the faithful using violence?
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Are you intentionally being dense?

Nothing you wrote is even tangentially relevant to Israel being a Jewish ethno-State that gives Jews across the globe priority (in fact, a right) to seek Israeli citizenship. [No need to even mention Israel's "Nation State" law which affirms this point very clearly.]

What you wrote might at least have made some sort of sense if England had an immigration policy whereby all individuals of Anglo-Saxon ancestry had an automatic and unqualified right to British citizenship. But, obviously, that's not the case.
you tried to suggest that non middle eatsern jews should not be allowed to settle there becuase their grandparents hadnt been born there. this is akin to the likes of the BNP old rhetoric in reference to the uk.

the rest of your comment bore no real relevance to the debate
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Israel, and their elections in the middle of the crater and mess that is the Middle East.
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Umm yes actually.

It most certainly does not have universal suffrage. There are dozens of ways the Arabs have been gradually pushed out.
Oh please it hasn’t had a war with an Arab state in decades. That’s nothing but a false hoary old excuse.
As for terror groups? Hardly. The Palestinians can legitimately be called freedom fighters whether you like it or not.
Fun fact for you though, did you know that Israel and isis hold almost exactly the same National template? An ethno religious state intent on expanding its boarders and importing the faithful using violence?
purely because israel crushed them in the past conflicts so convincingly and in modern terms has a vastly superior armed forces with the backing of the US.

this is not to say that the other arab states would not seize on any opportunity to attmept to 'wipe israel off the map' as they did those decades ago, if israel gave up all its arms and nukes
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purely because israel crushed them in the past conflicts so convincingly and in modern terms has a vastly superior armed forces with the backing of the US.

this is not to say that the other arab states would not seize on any opportunity to attmept to 'wipe israel off the map' as they did those decades ago, if israel gave up all its arms and nukes
What’s your point?
What a ridiculous straw man. Not to mention they’ve attacked Israel even when she had nukes.
As for that risible comment about wiping it off the map (that was made by a Persian not an Arab) and it was also “remove the Zionist state from the pages of history” what proof do you have of this? Israel has friendly to nod nod relations with all of these states bar the Palestinians (for obvious reasons), the Lebanese (who Israel savaged) and Syria (who Israel is squatting on their land and couldn’t attack them even if they wanted to) this your point is moot.
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Hard to take sides, both sides have committed terrible atrocities, and cant go around waving a Palestinian or Israeli flag with a clear conscience.

The Jewish people have inhabited this land for milennia, as well as a long presence of Muslims, and of great importance, to Christians.

A two - state solution is preferable to achieve this delicate balance, distancing politics away from anti-Arab from parties in Israel and the anti-Semitism that is rife in Arab countries, as well as the government to stop encouraging Jewish settlements, illegal under international laws.

Conflict is not the answer and has produced enough blood, and Israeli victory, over the Sinai Peninsula, and the threat of nuclear weapons, and would discourage extremist threats from Arab nations and Muslims, as like them, they have an as legitimate claim to the soil of Israel, and to Jerusalem.
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you tried to suggest that non middle eatsern jews should not be allowed to settle there becuase their grandparents hadnt been born there. this is akin to the likes of the BNP old rhetoric in reference to the uk.
I did no such thing; I merely explained how Israel is a racist ethno-State because Jews from across the world with no ancestral link to the land (I mention this because it is Israel that recourses to the history of the Jews as its official justification for occupying the land - from which I observe, quite factually, that Israel is an inherently racist ethno-state) have an automatic right to reside in that territory.

This is whilst the relatives of those Palestinians who were expelled from the land in 1948 and whom can actually trace their lineage to the land through several generations have no such rights to return to - and reside in - that land.

Once again, therefore, your analogy is totally nonsensical and shows your complete ignorance of the issue(s).
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