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Two Conservative local election candidates and a woman honoured with an MBE are among 40 new self-professed Tory members who have shared or endorsed racist and inflammatory Facebook posts including Islamophobic material, the Guardian has learned.

The torrent of racist posts include references to Muslims as “bin bag wearing individuals”, calls for the “cult” of Islam to be banned and the Qur’an being branded an “evil book”.

One female Tory supporter even called for a boycott of Muslim-owned shops and endorsed another comment labelling the religion’s followers “sub-human” and “cockroaches”.

Both of the council candidates – one of them claimed “Islamophobia was not surprising” in a rant about Muslims and said he would celebrate the death of the anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller – have now been suspended.

It comes as the Conservative party faces mounting pressure over its handling of Islamophobia. The Conservative peer Sayeeda Warsi has said Theresa May is “burying her head in the sand” over the issue and has led calls for a party inquiry.

Mohammed Amin, chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum, is also calling for party chiefs to hold an inquiry into Islamophobia. He told the Guardian: “The serious question the Conservative party has to ask itself is: what is it about the image that it is projecting that causes people with these views to think they belong in the Conservative party?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ammatory-posts

Anti-semitism from Labour, islamophobia from the Tories... Who exactly do I vote for in the upcoming elections?
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It's a new development in modern politics, this thing with the tracks people leave on social media and the way they can be weaponized by political opponents. From now on, everyone aspiring to a ticket in politics will have to make sure he never said or wrote something that can be turned into a fuss in the hyper-sensitive atmosphere we have come to. Politics has changed a lot, it's nothing like in the 20th century and that is probably a consequence of the termination of the Socialist experiment. What political debate is there to be had within the EU, for example?

All this digging of dirt on the net, there will be a lot of expertise behind it. Surely everyone can buy the required services to look up anything on anyone, even all the stuff deleted and forgotten about. That goes for everything we say in here, in case there is someone thinking of running for Mayor one day. I'm past it, therefore don't care.
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It's a new development in modern politics, this thing with the tracks people leave on social media and the way they can be weaponized by political opponents. From now on, everyone aspiring to a ticket in politics will have to make sure he never said or wrote something that can be turned into a fuss in the hyper-sensitive atmosphere we have come to. Politics has changed a lot, it's nothing like in the 20th century and that is probably a consequence of the termination of the Socialist experiment. What political debate is there to be had within the EU, for example?

All this digging of dirt on the net, there will be a lot of expertise behind it. Surely everyone can buy the required services to look up anything on anyone, even all the stuff deleted and forgotten about. That goes for everything we say in here, in case there is someone thinking of running for Mayor one day. I'm past it, therefore don't care.
I’m not sure that someone will have to have never done anything wrong; I can’t remember who it was I heard say it but someone suggested it’s about getting in front of the story and being the one to admit. The person went on to say that it’s probably part of the reason that Clinton smoking weed was abhorrent but Obama doing coke is forgotten.
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I’m not sure that someone will have to have never done anything wrong; I can’t remember who it was I heard say it but someone suggested it’s about getting in front of the story and being the one to admit. The person went on to say that it’s probably part of the reason that Clinton smoking weed was abhorrent but Obama doing coke is forgotten.
I was thinking more of our net footprints, the new way to get someone. The Tories announced some bloke was in the run for Mayor, that's enough to set Labour off in search of something he ever said or wrote to pinch him for. He wrote something on fb, whatever it was. Had any of us said a decade ago in here that Jews, Christians or Muslims smell and our opponents would dig that up and use it. It would to be hard to get in front of the story.
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not really surprised :rolleyes:
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My facebook is pretty clean, but I am pretty sure (one of) the main reason I couldn't ever become a MP is because someone would find a plethora of things I have said on TSR that could be used against me, both in and out of context.

Ive said it before but we are in an in-between generation, where we were introduced to the internet, but didn't know the risks. Especially long-term, and how things can be brought up 10 years, 15 years later. I think the generations being born today will be different, they will grow up in a world constantly embroiled in internet scandals, and "don't post things publicly online that you could regret later" will become as standard advise as "don't go in strangers cars". Especially kids at private schools, destined for goverment/business, I can see them getting a lot of prep in how to manage their online life.
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(Original post by AngeryPenguin)
Two Conservative local election candidates and a woman honoured with an MBE are among 40 new self-professed Tory members who have shared or endorsed racist and inflammatory Facebook posts including Islamophobic material, the Guardian has learned.

The torrent of racist posts include references to Muslims as “bin bag wearing individuals”, calls for the “cult” of Islam to be banned and the Qur’an being branded an “evil book”.

One female Tory supporter even called for a boycott of Muslim-owned shops and endorsed another comment labelling the religion’s followers “sub-human” and “cockroaches”.

Both of the council candidates – one of them claimed “Islamophobia was not surprising” in a rant about Muslims and said he would celebrate the death of the anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller – have now been suspended.

It comes as the Conservative party faces mounting pressure over its handling of Islamophobia. The Conservative peer Sayeeda Warsi has said Theresa May is “burying her head in the sand” over the issue and has led calls for a party inquiry.

Mohammed Amin, chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum, is also calling for party chiefs to hold an inquiry into Islamophobia. He told the Guardian: “The serious question the Conservative party has to ask itself is: what is it about the image that it is projecting that causes people with these views to think they belong in the Conservative party?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ammatory-posts

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calls for the “cult” of Islam to be banned and the Qur’an being branded an “evil book”.

Both of these are correct. So they weren't actually being Islamophobic.
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calls for the “cult” of Islam to be banned and the Qur’an being branded an “evil book”.

Both of these are correct. So they weren't actually being Islamophobic.
I disagree with your opinion and both those quotes.
I'm catholic and not at all inclined to go back to the ancient days of automatically branding all other religions "heresy"/"cults".
Or resurrecting age old tribal based sectarianism.

No breaking news, I remember Griffin and Wilders making these comments nearly a decade ago.
Those quotes may show hostility towards an abrahamic religion but they do not indicate anything resembling a phobia.
Phobia means irrational fear not hatred or ideological opposition.
Coulrophobia, cynophobia, aquaphobia and arachnobia- irrational fear of clowns, dogs, water and spiders.

I wish people would see beyond the sensationalist headlines, angry identity politics and hysterical reactions of the outraged.
The UK does not have an forbidden thoughts list or opinion police.
Bizarre or controversial attitudes are nothing new.
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calls for the “cult” of Islam to be banned and the Qur’an being branded an “evil book”.

Both of these are correct. So they weren't actually being Islamophobic.
Well if we are going by the technical definition of Islamophobia which is fear of Muslims OR Islam itself, then yes it is Islamophobic as those quotes show the hatred towards Islam.


Yeah, about those Tory supporters they singed up for the wrong party, go to Britain First or something like that..oh wait, you want to get into power don't you? Well tough luck, dumb fools such as yourself you will never get into power (I am not saying this to anyone on this thread, I am saying it to the Tory supporters who made those fascist tweets)
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Lock them up
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Let the night king kill them
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The truth is hateful?
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Well if we are going by the technical definition of Islamophobia which is fear of Muslims OR Islam itself, then yes it is Islamophobic as those quotes show the hatred towards Islam.


Yeah, about those Tory supporters they singed up for the wrong party, go to Britain First or something like that..oh wait, you want to get into power don't you? Well tough luck, dumb fools such as yourself you will never get into power (I am not saying this to anyone on this thread, I am saying it to the Tory supporters who made those fascist tweets)
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The Bible is also an evil book. I do not discriminate in my condemnation of ancient ideologies.

I really like your second part about phobias. These days everything is a phobia/phobic and people are -ists, just for disagreeing ideologically/politically. The last part is also very accurate. So thumbs up from me. Edit: can't, PRSOM
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I disagree with your opinion and both those quotes.
I'm catholic and not at all inclined to go back to the ancient days of automatically branding all other religions "heresy"/"cults".
Or resurrecting age old tribal based sectarianism.

No breaking news, I remember Griffin and Wilders making these comments nearly a decade ago.
Those quotes may show hostility towards an abrahamic religion but they do not indicate anything resembling a phobia.
Phobia means irrational fear not hatred or ideological opposition.
Coulrophobia, cynophobia, aquaphobia and arachnobia- irrational fear of clowns, dogs, water and spiders.

I wish people would see beyond the sensationalist headlines, angry identity politics and hysterical reactions of the outraged.
The UK does not have an forbidden thoughts list or opinion police.
Bizarre or controversial attitudes are nothing new.
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The Bible is also an evil book. I do not discriminate in my condemnation of ancient ideologies.

I really like your second part about phobias. These days everything is a phobia/phobic and people are -ists, just for disagreeing ideologically/politically. The last part is also very accurate. So thumbs up from me. Edit: can't, PRSOM
Are you a militant atheist?
My father is; the moment he spots anything connected to any religion he yells about religion being an evil cult out to scam money and control the gullible.
He wants to ban all religious books & symbols, seize all assets of religious organisations and use religious buildings to house the homeless.
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The truth is hateful?
Is not the truth in everyone's eyes, but you can say it that way if that is how you like it
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this is appalling. these people should join the Labour Party where they would feel right at home

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How horrible! Gina Miller is a saint.
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Well if we are going by the technical definition of Islamophobia which is fear of Muslims OR Islam itself, then yes it is Islamophobic as those quotes show the hatred towards Islam.


Yeah, about those Tory supporters they singed up for the wrong party, go to Britain First or something like that..oh wait, you want to get into power don't you? Well tough luck, dumb fools such as yourself you will never get into power (I am not saying this to anyone on this thread, I am saying it to the Tory supporters who made those fascist tweets)
Please do not conflate irrational fear and hate, when you do that you are handing a lifeline to bigoted hate criminals who desperately try to avoid punishment by dishonesty attributing their vile hate fueled actions to genuine fear.
This has led to gay bashing scumbags escaping criminal sanctions in the US by hiding behind the gay panic defence.
The phobia in relation to hate crime bigotry is a dishonest narrative and uses dishonest rhetoric, I'll explain why below.
Sorry, this message will probably be a little long.

A phobia is an irrational fear, not hatred or ideological opposition.
Aquaphobia is irrational fear of water, coulrophobia is irrational fear of clowns, cynophobia is irrational fear of dogs, arachnophobia is irrational fear of spiders.
I have friends who are aquaphobic, coulrophobic or arachnophic.
When they encounter water, clowns or spiders- they show fear.
Freezing, fleeing or crying.
Then when the danger is gone anxiety that the feared will return.
No hatred, abuse, violence or threats.

I know a few people who are genuinely afraid of gay people.
Most of them as a result of horrible, bigoted lies told by relatives.
None of them hate gay people or want to harm them in any way.
Finding out somebody is gay or seeing someone they know is gay, always results in them fleeing- running away in the opposite direction.
They would never abuse or attack a gay person, they are terrified not thuggish or hate filled.
As in they have an irrational fear of gay people.

Those who commit hate crimes and then claim the gay panic defence when they are put on trial are liars.
The gay bashing bigots admit to unprovoked attacks upon random strangers, claiming that the believe that it is a reflex action to bash up gay people .
They justify this bizarre and disgusting assertion by trying to disguise it as self-defence and pretend that they are so scared by the sight of a gay person that their automatic reflex is to violently attack them- while openly admitting that they will never attack people who are heterosexual.
Simply hate crime against gay people, often premeditated and something of a habit for gay bashing thugs.
Some US lawyers have a habit of representing gay bashers, presenting the gay panic defence and getting their clients acquitted with it.
Often those lawyers are openly hostile to LGBT rights, speak in support of conversion therapy to try convert gay people or talk about 'praying away the gay'.
These are the way how they show their hatred and bigotry against gay people.
Gay bashers show their hate and bigotry in another way.
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(Original post by londonmyst)
Please do not conflate irrational fear and hate, when you do that you are handing a lifeline to bigoted hate criminals who desperately try to avoid punishment by dishonesty attributing their vile hate fueled actions to genuine fear.
This has led to gay bashing scumbags escaping criminal sanctions in the US by hiding behind the gay panic defence.
The phobia in relation to hate crime bigotry is a dishonest narrative and uses dishonest rhetoric, I'll explain why below.
Sorry, this message will probably be a little long.

A phobia is an irrational fear, not hatred or ideological opposition.
Aquaphobia is irrational fear of water, coulrophobia is irrational fear of clowns, cynophobia is irrational fear of dogs, arachnophobia is irrational fear of spiders.
I have friends who are aquaphobic, coulrophobic or arachnophic.
When they encounter water, clowns or spiders- they show fear.
Freezing, fleeing or crying.
Then when the danger is gone anxiety that the feared will return.
No hatred, abuse, violence or threats.

I know a few people who are genuinely afraid of gay people.
Most of them as a result of horrible, bigoted lies told by relatives.
None of them hate gay people or want to harm them in any way.
Finding out somebody is gay or seeing someone they know is gay, always results in them fleeing- running away in the opposite direction.
They would never abuse or attack a gay person, they are terrified not thuggish or hate filled.
As in they have an irrational fear of gay people.

Those who commit hate crimes and then claim the gay panic defence when they are put on trial are liars.
The gay bashing bigots admit to unprovoked attacks upon random strangers, claiming that the believe that it is a reflex action to bash up gay people .
They justify this bizarre and disgusting assertion by trying to disguise it as self-defence and pretend that they are so scared by the sight of a gay person that their automatic reflex is to violently attack them- while openly admitting that they will never attack people who are heterosexual.
Simply hate crime against gay people, often premeditated and something of a habit for gay bashing thugs.
Some US lawyers have a habit of representing gay bashers, presenting the gay panic defence and getting their clients acquitted with it.
Often those lawyers are openly hostile to LGBT rights, speak in support of conversion therapy to try convert gay people or talk about 'praying away the gay'.
These are the way how they show their hatred and bigotry against gay people.
Gay bashers show their hate and bigotry in another way.
Yes, I mean something like that. Let me rephrase what I said, those quotes show fear towards Islam hence why the term Islamaphobia is justified. I always thought of hatred or fear being the same thing in a lot of situations
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