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Hi there,

I am looking into going into politics.

I will probably join Labour but I really want to have my own party because their manifesto doesn't go far enough for me.

But at the same time I am worried that my policies are too left wing and wouldn't get me votes.

Should I create some kind of "puppet" political party to serve as a more moderate version of my policies?

So like it would be a party that it still left of the political spectrum but not to the extent of my main policies

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You should make a party named after the constituency that you want to represent and then be an independent party.
(Original post by kali8603)
Hi there,

I am looking into going into politics.

I will probably join Labour but I really want to have my own party because their manifesto doesn't go far enough for me.

But at the same time I am worried that my policies are too left wing and wouldn't get me votes.

Should I create some kind of "puppet" political party to serve as a more moderate version of my policies?

So like it would be a party that it still left of the political spectrum but not to the extent of my main policies

thanks
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You should make a party named after the constituency that you want to represent and then be an independent party.
I was thinking of that, but maybe also a party to stand in county elections? But then could I actually become a mainstream political party or a party that people across the country could elect?

It's kind of annoying because my area is definitely not left wing (not right wing either but conservative), and I think you need to have lived in another area in the last 12 months. i lived in my neighbouring constituency for the first 10 years of my life but still not sure if that would count? That area isn't particuarly left wing either but I think there are far more issues I can address there, my party will be a leftist populist party
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First start off small then if you party gets big then re neame and compete in the country elections then in order to become a mainstream political party.
Also if your area is not left wing then you should look to send booklets to the people about what development you will carry out, also go around ask them about the issues that you can address there by going to their houses.
If you come into power then make as much development in the area as possible in 5 year so they gain trust in your party, then in 5 years you publicise that your party will become a mainstream party and show people how much development you have done in one area and how much more you can do in other areas.
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I was thinking of that, but maybe also a party to stand in county elections? But then could I actually become a mainstream political party or a party that people across the country could elect?

It's kind of annoying because my area is definitely not left wing (not right wing either but conservative), and I think you need to have lived in another area in the last 12 months. i lived in my neighbouring constituency for the first 10 years of my life but still not sure if that would count? That area isn't particuarly left wing either but I think there are far more issues I can address there, my party will be a leftist populist party
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It is a lot easier to join an existing party that best reflects your politics.
Over the last 10 years, there are so many smaller and more recently established political parties.
Change UK, The Women's Equality Party, Green Party, Brexit Party.
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It is a lot easier to join an existing party that best reflects your politics.
Over the last 10 years, there are so many smaller and more recently established political parties.
Change UK, The Women's Equality Party, Green Party, Brexit Party.
None of them fit my politics. I'm a socialist economically but socially conservative. I'm also more authoritarian.
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First start off small then if you party gets big then re neame and compete in the country elections then in order to become a mainstream political party.
Also if your area is not left wing then you should look to send booklets to the people about what development you will carry out, also go around ask them about the issues that you can address there by going to their houses.
If you come into power then make as much development in the area as possible in 5 year so they gain trust in your party, then in 5 years you publicise that your party will become a mainstream party and show people how much development you have done in one area and how much more you can do in other areas.
Thanks for the suggestion, what about if I just run as independent in a local campaign? I think in my area people vote for a party rather than who'se running for it because the politicians in my areas are all tories and they have literally done bugger all.

I'm 16 at the moment and really want to get involved in campaigning but I have GCSEs, its so annnoying the EU and Local elections are in may XD
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None of them fit my politics. I'm a socialist economically but socially conservative. I'm also more authoritarian.
Like a trot or marxist?
Trot as in trotskyist like socialist worker.
My parents are revolutionary trade union socialists, their politics comes very close to communism.

Mainstream uk politics does not like authoritarianism, you'll have to calm it down or else be confined to the political fringes as a wannabe dictator.
Most people tend to emphasize either the social or economic perspective, then their politics blends together many different ideologies/priorities within the political spectrum and decides to what extent to agree/plan to implement in a manifesto.
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Good luck for your GCSEs :woo:
(Original post by kali8603)
Thanks for the suggestion, what about if I just run as independent in a local campaign? I think in my area people vote for a party rather than who'se running for it because the politicians in my areas are all tories and they have literally done bugger all.

I'm 16 at the moment and really want to get involved in campaigning but I have GCSEs, its so annnoying the EU and Local elections are in may XD
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Like a trot or marxist?
Trot as in trotskyist like socialist worker.
My parents are revolutionary trade union socialists, their politics comes very close to communism.

Mainstream uk politics does not like authoritarianism, you'll have to calm it down or else be confined to the political fringes as a wannabe dictator.
Most people tend to emphasize either the social or economic perspective, then their politics blends together many different ideologies/priorities within the political spectrum and decides to what extent to agree/plan to implement in a manifesto.
Yes like a marxist, but I am not supportive of full communism, I just support a more centralised economy, higher taxes for the rich etc. Having read Labour's manifesto, a lot of politics are similar, but whilst I like Jeremy Corbyn, I find him a poor leader, with little leadership qualities and also when he goes Labour will shift back to the right.
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At least he doesn't support people who make a party called "The Brexit Party" just because they lost in their own constituency, which just shows how good of a politician they actually are.
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Lol, you're about 12. Nobody is gonna elect you, and you are never going to form a 'mainstream party' even if you wanted to.
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Corbyn's not going far enough lol? Taking the party further to the left because of new age commies like yourself...

Guess the only thing left is the Communist Party of Britain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commun...rty_of_Britain)

https://www.communist-party.org.uk/
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At least he doesn't support people who make a party called "The Brexit Party" just because they lost in their own constituency, which just shows how good of a politician they actually are.
Bloody hell, you do realise all MPs who lose an election are losing 'in their own constituency', right? Garage was leader of UKIP and has now set up another party, he was crucial to amassing great support for UKIP and helped orchestrate the successful Leave campaign - and has now managed to market 'The Brexit Party' exceptionally well as well. I don't know how you can claim he isn't a good politician when he founded and spearheaded UKIP and was instrumental to Britain leaving the European Union?

And, I know you probably are a bit of a political nomad considering you felt insecure enough to go on Anonymous, but in 2015 UKIP got over 12% of the vote share, but their votes were spread out, he only didn't win his constituency because of the way the electoral system, not because he's a bad politician.
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Hiya, can I move this to the politics thread?
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Corbyn's not going far enough lol? Taking the party further to the left because of new age commies like yourself...

Guess the only thing left is the Communist Party of Britain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commun...rty_of_Britain)

https://www.communist-party.org.uk/
Well its more of his general demeaneur. He speaks with little to no emotion, he sounds boring and doesn't come across awfully well.

Ever heard of George Galloway? Firery Scottish accent is great for speaking and his politics - too bad he got kicked out of Labour.

The only things I would (realistically) change about the Labour manifesto are the fact that it still insists on renewing Trident, and also ideally I would want Britain to become a republic.

I think Corbyn is too politically correct otherwise. John McDonnell is a self confessed Marxist and Corbyn admits he hasn't even read anything of Karl Marx
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Well its more of his general demeaneur. He speaks with little to no emotion, he sounds boring and doesn't come across awfully well.

Ever heard of George Galloway? Firery Scottish accent is great for speaking and his politics - too bad he got kicked out of Labour.

The only things I would (realistically) change about the Labour manifesto are the fact that it still insists on renewing Trident, and also ideally I would want Britain to become a republic.

I think Corbyn is too politically correct otherwise. John McDonnell is a self confessed Marxist and Corbyn admits he hasn't even read anything of Karl Marx
I would want Britain to become a republic. Off with his head!!!

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I would rather the anthem be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO6q_mFjEUg


In all honesty, I acknowledge right now getting rid of the monarchy would have little to no support, and I do like some of the traditions, but I think after HM Queen Elizabeth dies the royal family will become less prevalent and will eventually dissolve.

That said I think it is a little silly that we as a modern nation still literally have a 93 year old woman as its head of state. Buckingham Palace would be better than Downing Street for a PM's house. Failing that we could turn it into council housing or a museum ;-)
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I would want Britain to become a republic. Off with his head!!!

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I would rather the anthem be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO6q_mFjEUg


In all honesty, I acknowledge right now getting rid of the monarchy would have little to no support, and I do like some of the traditions, but I think after HM Queen Elizabeth dies the royal family will become less prevalent and will eventually dissolve.

That said I think it is a little silly that we as a modern nation still literally have a 93 year old woman as its head of state. Buckingham Palace would be better than Downing Street for a PM's house. Failing that we could turn it into council housing or a museum ;-)
council housing? can imagine Churchill reacting to that....

I think our old Queenie, has been a tireless symbol of our nation for decades, and us as a people....

(though will admit to knowing the first half of that anthem in Russian)

Plus the Yanks, and tourists pay big bucks because of them, and have voluntarily handed over profits from their lands to the government, running into the hundreds of millions, in return for an income......

Fine in France or Russia, but feel its part of our history and heritage...

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I think tbh there is no need to get rid of the monarchy mostly....because unlike Tsarist Russia and France the monarchy is not absolute, it is constitutional and doesn't have any say in government. But I think we should not have to pay for them, they should pay for their security for any events and any weddings etc.
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council housing? can imagine Churchill reacting to that....

I think our old Queenie, has been a tireless symbol of our nation for decades, and us as a people....

(though will admit to knowing the first half of that anthem in Russian)

Plus the Yanks, and tourists pay big bucks because of them, and have voluntarily handed over profits from their lands to the government, running into the hundreds of millions, in return for an income......

Fine in France or Russia, but feel its part of our history and heritage...

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