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Interested to know why some less prestigious universities require a Masters degree for PhD entry yet more academically established schools may not.

For example I meet the entry requirement for Durham but not Roehampton.
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Interested to know why some less prestigious universities require a Masters degree for PhD entry yet more academically established schools may not.

For example I meet the entry requirement for Durham but not Roehampton.
It will depend on the PhD route, what your previous degree was in, and how well the university thinks you'll cope with PhD level study (which some courses require a master's in order to prepare you for that, as some undergraduate courses will naturally include less statistics/research methods training etc.).
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I've heard University league table positions don't particularly matter at PhD level. You should be looking for supervisors with the connections to their subject and a proven track record of getting PhD candidates through their PhDs. While the high-end Unis are most likely going to have the most well respected supervisors in their chosen field, you can find them at "lower" Unis too
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As above, it will vary simply because universities themselves have very varied approaches to things. There may also be requirements for the funding that the student have a masters, or that they anticipate having so many applicants for so few funding sources that it's a necessary attrition tool. More than that however, you are applying a generic metric (and a very dubious one at that) to a very specialised programme to be applying to. Just because a university is "in general" prestigious doesn't mean that it is well regarded in that particular area of research - I'm not even referring to the subject level, I mean as in the very specific area the PhD project will be based in.

Additionally, "generic" prestige tells you nothing about the quality (or lack thereof) of the individual researchers who may be your supervisor for the PhD. The world renowned name in a particular strand of research might well work at what you would consider a "less prestigious" university, but no academic would question their authority on their subject matter if they were such a world class researcher. More to the point, people in academia realise that the "prestige" of a university - as measured by undergraduate league tables, no less - is entirely meaningless.

Really you're asking the wrong question; you should be considering how well your undergraduate course has prepared you for research work (i.e. not the mere triviality of taking timed examinations), particularly in light of the fact some programmes wouldn't consider you adequately prepared, Additionally you need to be asking yourself who the important academics (i.e. individual researchers) in your prospective field of study are. Even if you haven't read the individual papers, you should be able to evaluate which papers are considered important on the information in the abstract and how widely it is (or isn't) being cited, or built upon otherwise in other papers. Once you know who the important academics are, you can find out where they are based, and which other academics, research groups, and institutions they collaborate with, which will generally all point you towards the actual strengths in the research, compared to undergraduate league tables.
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