I want to organise a climate change strike at my school Watch

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I'm feeling very inspired by the school strikes across the country, and would like to organise one in my school, and even across the schools in my city. Has anyone got any tips? How did you spread the word? Did you tell your teachers and ask permission, or just go for it?
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if you get permission, its not really a strike is it?

Go for it if you think it will make a difference, but be really honest with yourself in questioning, if your goal is to make a difference to climate change, is a strike the best policy?

And if you do a strike, what do you want as your outcomes? Its great just 'raising awareness' but in reality your going to raise very little awareness, people are already incredibly aware, including all of your teachers about how bad climate change is... so what are your goals?

Maybe you can think of some practical changes your school can make that would help the climate? e.g. more recycling, no plastic bottled drinks sold in school, setting water-saving targets, installing a small wind turbine or solar panels to save energy use, making teachers car-pool to save emissions.. starting a walk-to-school program for all kids within 2-3miles of the school etc. etc.

I would have a lot of respect for a group of kids who did that. Who went to their school, organized a strike, had clear and practical demands that their school could do, that would help the planet, and then did it and forced their school into action.

That course of action is 100 times more useful then just trying to raise awareness of an issue that's all over the media right now. Its like going on strike to raise awareness for Justin beieber.. he already has enough, the little extra awareness your adding means nothing. But coming up with practical solutions that your school could actually do (don't be unrealistic with your demands, like "0% emmisions for the whole school in 2 years!!"), would be great, and would actually mean that you and your friends are helping to save the world.
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if you get permission, its not really a strike is it?

Go for it if you think it will make a difference, but be really honest with yourself in questioning, if your goal is to make a difference to climate change, is a strike the best policy?

And if you do a strike, what do you want as your outcomes? Its great just 'raising awareness' but in reality your going to raise very little awareness, people are already incredibly aware, including all of your teachers about how bad climate change is... so what are your goals?

Maybe you can think of some practical changes your school can make that would help the climate? e.g. more recycling, no plastic bottled drinks sold in school, setting water-saving targets, installing a small wind turbine or solar panels to save energy use, making teachers car-pool to save emissions.. starting a walk-to-school program for all kids within 2-3miles of the school etc. etc.

I would have a lot of respect for a group of kids who did that. Who went to their school, organized a strike, had clear and practical demands that their school could do, that would help the planet, and then did it and forced their school into action.

That course of action is 100 times more useful then just trying to raise awareness of an issue that's all over the media right now. Its like going on strike to raise awareness for Justin beieber.. he already has enough, the little extra awareness your adding means nothing. But coming up with practical solutions that your school could actually do (don't be unrealistic with your demands, like "0% emmisions for the whole school in 2 years!!"), would be great, and would actually mean that you and your friends are helping to save the world.
The whole point of the climate protest wasn't just to raise awareness it was to force action.Yes everybody knows about the issue but then you look at the government and what are they doing? Not a whole lot.They are opening up a new coal mine,building a 3rd runway at Heathrow the single largest source of Co2 emissions and they are exploring Fracking.Apparently they've reduced emissions by 40% but this doesn't include international aviation or shipping.So really this is just massaging the figures and the actual reduction is more like 10%.So yes everybody knows about climate change.Are they doing anything? Nope.Its Brexit this and Brexit that.
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The whole point of the climate protest wasn't just to raise awareness it was to force action.Yes everybody knows about the issue but then you look at the government and what are they doing? Not a whole lot.They are opening up a new coal mine,building a 3rd runway at Heathrow the single largest source of Co2 emissions and they are exploring Fracking.Apparently they've reduced emissions by 40% but this doesn't include international aviation or shipping.So really this is just massaging the figures and the actual reduction is more like 10%.So yes everybody knows about climate change.Are they doing anything? Nope.Its Brexit this and Brexit that.
so what?

The OP has missed the boat on joining the big group of student protests that happened a while back, and they have missed the major london protests that have come and gone. Their protest is individual and in isolation, in which case it makes no difference to the government. Even the mass school walkouts made no difference to the government.

Extension rebellions London protests showed you how much of a noise you have to make to even get people to listen, and even they have only got a fraction of what they were asking for. The reality is that protests work only when your protest causes the government a bigger problem then the problems caused by solving your issue. They can work brilliantly, and I am all for effective protesting, but they have to be in proportion with your desired outcomes.

The school protests failed because they caused the government such a tiny problem that ignoring it is easier then the massive problem that actually fixing climate change immediately would cause them. Obviously you will say 'but climate change itself will be a bigger problem in the future' - but for the poltiicans, so what? that's not factored into their mentality to much because they wont be in power when **** hits the fan.

Extention rebellions london protests caused much more of a problem, enough of a problem that the government thought it appropriate to meet with them, here their demands, and MPs thought that dealing with the (undefined) consequences of agreeing to call a climate emergency was less of an issue then ignoring the protest.

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So working back to this kids school protest, they amount of problems they can cause the goverment? tiny. The amount of problems they can cause their school? huge. Meaning in terms of leverage for actual action that could make a difference, they have a much much higher chance at forcing their school into action then seeing any effect at all on the government.

They could make a real difference in their school. As I mentioned above you could easily come up with a list of actual things that the school could practically do that would reduce its carbon emissions and plastic waste, all of which would be far far easier a problem to deal with for the school, then students striking every day. And then they could go home, and feel good about the actual tangible amount of good they have done for the environment.
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Sorry to tell you, but 99.9999% ≈ 100% that you will force nothing
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so what?

The OP has missed the boat on joining the big group of student protests that happened a while back, and they have missed the major london protests that have come and gone. Their protest is individual and in isolation, in which case it makes no difference to the government. Even the mass school walkouts made no difference to the government.

Extension rebellions London protests showed you how much of a noise you have to make to even get people to listen, and even they have only got a fraction of what they were asking for. The reality is that protests work only when your protest causes the government a bigger problem then the problems caused by solving your issue. They can work brilliantly, and I am all for effective protesting, but they have to be in proportion with your desired outcomes.

The school protests failed because they caused the government such a tiny problem that ignoring it is easier then the massive problem that actually fixing climate change immediately would cause them. Obviously you will say 'but climate change itself will be a bigger problem in the future' - but for the poltiicans, so what? that's not factored into their mentality to much because they wont be in power when **** hits the fan.

Extention rebellions london protests caused much more of a problem, enough of a problem that the government thought it appropriate to meet with them, here their demands, and MPs thought that dealing with the (undefined) consequences of agreeing to call a climate emergency was less of an issue then ignoring the protest.

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So working back to this kids school protest, they amount of problems they can cause the goverment? tiny. The amount of problems they can cause their school? huge. Meaning in terms of leverage for actual action that could make a difference, they have a much much higher chance at forcing their school into action then seeing any effect at all on the government.

They could make a real difference in their school. As I mentioned above you could easily come up with a list of actual things that the school could practically do that would reduce its carbon emissions and plastic waste, all of which would be far far easier a problem to deal with for the school, then students striking every day. And then they could go home, and feel good about the actual tangible amount of good they have done for the environment.
So what is your solution? If protesting won't change anything and voting won't change anything what would you suggest people do? Just accept their crappy future? A schools all well and good and obviously they can actually do something about the school but really if the climates ****ed it won't matter in the long term.
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Change is going to be very slow, the awareness is already quite high and more of these protests with ludicrous goals aren't going to raise it any higher. ZERO emissions by 2025? That's a joke.

We might just be able to get to net zero within 30 years. That'll require a minor revolution which is already taking place: electric cars, renewable energy, NUCLEAR energy.

It's all well and good to protest climate change, but no one is willing to reduce their living standards, not even the protesters. They take hot showers, use polluting transportation, use shipping, use unsustainable resources to make signs and flags. It's quite hypocritical. Technological development will save us, or nothing at all will.
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