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What is to stop a far right nazi like party gaining power in the UK? If they decided to gas a minority of people, who would stop them? Why does the UK promote democracy, but not care about liberty?

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what they are going to
have for lunch.Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote".

Benjamin Franklin

Why doesn't the UK give handguns to its citizens so they have absolute liberty from a tyrannical government and criminals?
How would arming the citizenry stop a far right party? Don't you think that would actually be a very very bad idea because the far right party would also have handguns?

How many times has someone like Farage stood as an MP... and how many times has he won?

The *majority* of the British public is actually pretty good at spotting extremism and giving it short shrift.
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How would arming the citizenry stop a far right party? Don't you think that would actually be a very very bad idea because the far right party would also have handguns?

How many times has someone like Farage stood as an MP... and how many times has he won?

The *majority* of the British public is actually pretty good at spotting extremism and giving it short shrift.
Again, we are rolling the dice here. Say in the next 100 years, a far right party gets in, how can we stop them repeating 1940s Germany or 1970s Uganda?

The whole point is if someone tries to take you out of your home, you have a gun to defend yourself.
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Again, we are rolling the dice here. Say in the next 100 years, a far right party gets in, how can we stop them repeating 1940s Germany or 1970s Uganda?

The whole point is if someone tries to take you out of your home, you have a gun to defend yourself.
It would be stopped long before that. You are showing your ignorance.
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So why don't we allow citizens to have handguns for self defence? What if soldiers came and dragged you out of your own home like Uganda of the 1970s under Idi Amin?
It is a risk I am willing to take. Having guns in this country will spell its end. Just look at the US and recently New Zealand.
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It would be stopped long before that. You are showing your ignorance.
What like Hitler or Idi Amin was stopped? They achieved their goals.
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Again, we are rolling the dice here. Say in the next 100 years, a far right party gets in, how can we stop them repeating 1940s Germany or 1970s Uganda?

The whole point is if someone tries to take you out of your home, you have a gun to defend yourself.
We've been here for thousands of years. Mosley and his brownshirts had a good go prior to WW2 but were unsuccessful. There's no reason to think it will be any different in 100 years time.
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We've been here for thousands of years. Mosley and his brownshirts had a good go prior to WW2 but where unsuccessful. There's no reason to think it will be any different in 100 years time.
Only since the 1940s has the UK made it against the law to have a gun for self defence. The UK was well armed before the 1940s, I can assure you.
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(Original post by maachu_pichuu)
What is to stop a far right nazi like party gaining power in the UK? If they decided to gas a minority of people, who would stop them? Why does the UK promote democracy, but not care about liberty?

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what they are going to
have for lunch.Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote".

Benjamin Franklin

Why doesn't the UK give handguns to its citizens so they have absolute liberty from a tyrannical government and criminals?
UK is a great nation which has been led by donkeys post Thatcher.

Terrorist attacks, knife crimes in London at an all time high last year, countless of deaths in hospitals, cuts to police officers, recruitment of foreign doctors and nurses with dubious qualifications, Metropolitan Police commissioner admitting that they only investigate a small percentage of reported crimes, people dying at home or in public because the ambulance takes forever to arrive, people with third class degrees being allowed to train as teachers due to the shortage, misuse of the benefits system, poor border control, english testing centres for migrants and foreign students work in cahoots with student agents to falsify the test results and the list goes on and on.

Your question is of the least of concern when stacked against all the other problems I have just listed.
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It is a risk I am willing to take. Having guns in this country will spell its end. Just look at the US and recently New Zealand.
Nations which citizens have guns are free, the US is safer than the UK.The level of violent crime is much lower in the US. London is a joke, you get stabbings daily, are you going to ban knives? If concealed carry of a firearm was allowed in the UK, violent crime would drop immediately.
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The United States is no safer than the U.K. people would just shoot one another rather than stabbing
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Nations which citizens have guns are free, the US is safer than the UK.The level of violent crime is much lower in the US. London is a joke, you get stabbings daily, are you going to ban knives? If concealed carry of a firearm was allowed in the UK, violent crime would drop immediately.
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The United States is no safer than the U.K. people would just shoot one another rather than stabbing
Look at violent crime statistics in the US and compare it to the UK. If you want to stop rapes, muggings and stabbings, you need to allow people to conceal carry a firearm.
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You're the first person who's said ''Brexit party'' and ''far right Nazi like party'' in the same sentence in this thread y'know >.>
Haha. I was just saying in words what the OP was saying in “code”
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Nations which citizens have guns are free, the US is safer than the UK.The level of violent crime is much lower in the US. London is a joke, you get stabbings daily, are you going to ban knives? If concealed carry of a firearm was allowed in the UK, violent crime would drop immediately.
The violent crime rate in the US is much higher than the UK.
i.e. 5.35 intentional homicides per 100,000 in the US vs 1.20 for the UK
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The United States is no safer than the U.K. people would just shoot one another rather than stabbing
You have completely sidestepped all of the problems I have listed about the UK. The US gun laws are important cos there's a lot of history and important reasons why they came up with that in their constitution. Anyways the focus here is on UK, not the US. Besides, US have a great president with great leadership. What does the UK have? A geography graduate who was a terrible Home Minister and then thought she could be a better Prime Minister. Ha, dream on.
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You have completely sidestepped all of the problems I have listed about the UK. The US gun laws are important cos there's a lot of history and important reasons why they came up with that in their constitution. Anyways the focus here is on UK, not the US. Besides, US have a great president with great leadership. What does the UK have? A geography graduate who was a terrible Home Minister and then thought she could be a better Prime Minister. Ha, dream on.
That’s because I wasn’t responding to you and haven’t read your comment.
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The violent crime rate in the US is much higher than the UK.
i.e. 5.35 intentional homicides per 100,000 in the US vs 1.20 for the UK
What about the rapes, muggings and assaults?
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What about the rapes, muggings and assaults?
If you know the stats post them up.
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Nations which citizens have guns are free, the US is safer than the UK.The level of violent crime is much lower in the US. London is a joke, you get stabbings daily, are you going to ban knives? If concealed carry of a firearm was allowed in the UK, violent crime would drop immediately.
Are you actually comparing the UK to the US? People like you are quick to talk about London because that is your only card. In the US, just look at North Philadelphia, Chicago etc.
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Only since the 1940s has the UK made it against the law to have a gun for self defence. The UK was well armed before the 1940s, I can assure you.
As we have already decided you are an ignorant fantasist, then your assurances dont go very far.
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As we have already decided you are an ignorant fantasist, then your assurances dont go very far.
No "we" mate, just you.
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