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I have been accused of plagiarism and there is clear proof that I did commit it. Now I am awaiting for a decision to be made by the committee and I might be called to see them and explain.

Has anyone had a similar experience ? What should I do ? If I will be honest and admit it, will I get the worst penalty ?

I am well aware of the consequences, in the best case I will be awarded a 0, in the worst I could be expelled.

Please help, any advise would be appreciated.
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Look at it the other way. They have clear proof. What would you have to gain by lying? Absolutely nothing. All it does is demonstrate that you were still trying to cover it up. So at the end of the day, lying or telling the truth isn't going to matter when they already have the proof.

It therefore makes the most sense to be honest. If you're lucky, owning up straight away will lessen the impact. There are going to be numerous factors that will actually determine what happens though but it's entirely possible you get off scot free, you get expelled, or anything in between.
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Have you ever been in trouble before?
What year are you in?
What is the plagiarism you have been accused of, describe it. How extensive? What sort?
Presumably you have seen the evidence.
Obviously if they have clear evidence then you cant deny it.
How it came to happen is whats important. Note my advice is different from above and below.
It depends on the facts though.

Direct plagiarism is a bit more complicated than just a 0.
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Just be honest, you are most likely to get a 0 rather than be expelled if you tell the truth, lying would certainly get you expelled because they have clear proof
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So many questions for him to answer.. I literally read that and thought it was an defence lawyer talking lmao
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Have you ever been in trouble before?
What year are you in?
What is the plagiarism you have been accused of, describe it. How extensive? What sort?
Presumably you have seen the evidence.
Obviously if they have clear evidence then you cant deny it.
How it came to happen is whats important.
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(Original post by Camryn0903)
So many questions for him to answer.. I literally read that and thought it was an defence lawyer talking lmao
Because they are relevant for any advice given.
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Yes ik... it was a jk.. dw lol 🤣
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Because they are relevant for any advice given.
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Never been in trouble before, this is my (3rd) last year, I have been accused to copy almost everything (words, structure, etc.), my situation is super bad, at this point they have clear proof that is a direct plagiarism, so I wonder: will I get just a zero or will I be expelled ?
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Have you ever been in trouble before?
What year are you in?
What is the plagiarism you have been accused of, describe it. How extensive? What sort?
Presumably you have seen the evidence.
Obviously if they have clear evidence then you cant deny it.
How it came to happen is whats important. Note my advice is different from above and below.
It depends on the facts though.

Direct plagiarism is a bit more complicated than just a 0.
Never been in trouble before, this is my (3rd) last year, I have been accused to copy almost everything (words, structure, etc.), my situation is super bad, at this point they have clear proof, so I wonder: will I get just a zero or will I be expelled ?
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If you are a good student.. why did you do it... no offence but its kinda your own fault 😕
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Why did you plagiarise an entire essay? Did you think you wouldn’t get caught ?
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I must be honest because proof is clear and I can not deny it. Why you think I will be most likely to get a 0 rather than be expelled ? Is your assumption based only upon your thinking or on real cases of plagiarism that you might have witnessed/experienced ?
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Just be honest, you are most likely to get a 0 rather than be expelled if you tell the truth, lying would certainly get you expelled because they have clear proof
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Impossible to say what judgment your uni will hand out. Maybe if you just admit it and the fact it's a first offence, things will work on your favour. Or maybe your uni will just have a zero tolerance approach. Every uni will treat every case differently, even anecdotal advice won't be much use here.
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This actually sounds quite bad to me. You're in your final year, so can't rely on 'I didn't really understand the concept of referencing', which a first year student might be able to use as mitigating circumstances. You also say that you've copied 'everything', eg a cut-and-paste job, with clear evidence - far worse than just having been caught lifting a paragraph verbatim.

I'm fairly sure the work will be awarded zero. Whether there are further consequences for your deceit in regards to the awarding of your degree will be up to the academic standards board of your uni.
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Thats not a good enough description. PM me what it is you are doing and what they are saying plus what you did.
Assuming you are guilty and you have copied an entire essay or used an essay mill, then it depends but I would be looking at more than a zero because of the extent of your plagiarism. It sounds like they caught you red handed and it wasnt just a small failing to reference, but substantial copying.

Assuming this is correct then it would seem foolish to have done so in such an obvious way that would get checked.
You arent giving me a lot to work with.

Have you spoken to the student advisor?

I cant tell without more detail, but more than a 0 and it depends. Final warning, but I wouldnt rule out straight being expelled.
What were you thinking?
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No .. look if you are absolutely certain they have proof, this is your scenario

You lie and say you didnt do and they will think you are even less worthy of a second chance because you are still trying to lie about it

You come clean and tell the truth and they MAY be more lenient considering you are now telling the truth

I take law... and if someone pleads guilty... in ANY OFFENCE their sentence will be decreased, if they plead not guilty and get found guilty the judge will be less lenient

The uni is your judge right now because the prosecution have already proved their cases and the jury have decided you are guilty

Only the difference between you and the court system is that you can admit it now and say that you did it and the unj might be more lenient... you'll still have to prove your case though of why you are worthy of a second chance
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worse result is jail my g but i dont think that will happen unless its very serious
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Be honest OP. Have you done this before and just not been caught? You arent really telling us the full story.
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My situation is that I have taken someone else's thought and have just paraphrased it. Now if we assume that this is the worst case of plagiarism ever, would I get the chance to do anything to avoid to be expelled or I am just fu**** ?

I haven't spoken yet to SA, I will soon.
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Thats not a good enough description. PM me what it is you are doing and what they are saying plus what you did.
Assuming you are guilty and you have copied an entire essay or used an essay mill, then it depends but I would be looking at more than a zero because of the extent of your plagiarism. It sounds like they caught you red handed and it wasnt just a small failing to reference, but substantial copying.

Assuming this is correct then it would seem foolish to have done so in such an obvious way that would get checked.
You arent giving me a lot to work with.

Have you spoken to the student advisor?

I cant tell without more detail, but more than a 0 and it depends. Final warning, but I wouldnt rule out straight being expelled.
What were you thinking?
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Never done it before, first time
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Be honest OP. Have you done this before and just not been caught? You arent really telling us the full story.
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Well yeah I agree every case is different and every uni has a different approach, I was hoping that someone who had experienced or witnessed a similar **** could tell me what happened at the end
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Impossible to say what judgment your uni will hand out. Maybe if you just admit it and the fact it's a first offence, things will work on your favour. Or maybe your uni will just have a zero tolerance approach. Every uni will treat every case differently, even anecdotal advice won't be much use here.
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