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I have been unsuccessful on TWO occasions (PGCE SCITT) and now I feel disheartened. Don’t know how it’ll go on my next (3rd choice) interview. Maybe I won’t go... ☹️☹️☹️

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I have been unsuccessful on TWO occasions (PGCE SCITT) and now I feel disheartened. Don’t know how it’ll go on my next (3rd choice) interview. Maybe I won’t go... ☹️☹️☹️

No don’t feel like that! There’s always apply 2!

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I have been unsuccessful on TWO occasions (PGCE SCITT) and now I feel disheartened. Don’t know how it’ll go on my next (3rd choice) interview. Maybe I won’t go... ☹️☹️☹️

SCITT courses often have very limited places, and so are more competitive than other training routes. It's not unusual for people to get SCITT rejections when they'd get offers from a big university based PGCE course.

Have you got any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful? Do you think you could put it into place before your next interview?

Have you started looking at options for apply 2?

However, I would also say that you will need a lot of resilience to survive the next few years, so if this has really put you off, then maybe it's not the right time for you to be going into teaching.

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Why were you unsuccessful? If it was the interview, describe the process and what you did and I may be able to help you out for the 3rd interview.

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Was it a question of timing? Teaching applications have been open since October so it may be that they don't have enough places.

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Go for a conventional PGCE place as many more places vs applicants. What subject are you applying for?

From my limited knowledge of in school programmes the failure rate is high, many trainees do a runner. My PGCE second placement lost all of their GTPs after a term and I was told it was usual. No idea of the stats, but a conventional PGCE is largely school based so I don't understand the rationale for the school based alternative (apart from Tory meddling and anti "socialist uni propaganda")

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(Original post by BewareTomato)
No don’t feel like that! There’s always apply 2!

Due to personal constraints and circumstances, I really preffered the SCITT. However, I feel as if the university (if they accept me) may give placements too far...

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SCITT courses often have very limited places, and so are more competitive than other training routes. It's not unusual for people to get SCITT rejections when they'd get offers from a big university based PGCE course.

Have you got any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful? Do you think you could put it into place before your next interview?

Have you started looking at options for apply 2?

However, I would also say that you will need a lot of resilience to survive the next few years, so if this has really put you off, then maybe it's not the right time for you to be going into teaching.

Hi, my feedback was in regards to confidence levels. I had to read to a KS2 Class, where I prepared for a task for them to do after reading a book.

Apply 2: I have began looking at option, though I feel the placements may be too far for me.

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Why were you unsuccessful? If it was the interview, describe the process and what you did and I may be able to help you out for the 3rd interview.

I was told that due to lack of confidence i was an unsuccessful applicant. The process included written Maths and English tasks followed by reading a book to a KS2 class. After reading the chapter, I had prepared a task sheet for the class (to be completed individually)...

My next interview is a PGCE at university.

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They didn't mention anything about timing...

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Was it a question of timing? Teaching applications have been open since October so it may be that they don't have enough places.

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Hi, my next interview is at a university. i am applying for a PGCE in Primary. However, after being unsuccessful at 2 SCITT programs... I feel really nervous about my upcoming interview.

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Go for a conventional PGCE place as many more places vs applicants. What subject are you applying for?

From my limited knowledge of in school programmes the failure rate is high, many trainees do a runner. My PGCE second placement lost all of their GTPs after a term and I was told it was usual. No idea of the stats, but a conventional PGCE is largely school based so I don't understand the rationale for the school based alternative (apart from Tory meddling and anti "socialist uni propaganda")

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Keep going! I am in EXACTLY the same boat except my 3rd provider doesn't even need to reply until 10th June.
I cant find the final date that we are allowed to use Apply 2 until which is stressing me out..plus I am on holiday for 2 weeks in June.

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It’s so daunting isn’t it. Did you apply for SCITT routes?

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Yes! If my 3rd is a "no" I am going to use Apply 2 to apply to a traditional uni based course...running out of time however🤔

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It’s so daunting isn’t it. Did you apply for SCITT routes?

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Yes that’s what I am worried about. I’m just wonder when the applications will close

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Hi, my feedback was in regards to confidence levels. I had to read to a KS2 Class, where I prepared for a task for them to do after reading a book.

Apply 2: I have began looking at option, though I feel the placements may be too far for me.

Confidence is a really important attribute that ITT providers will look for. In some ways your uni PGCE application may be easier as you may just be interacting with other applicants, rather than children.

At this stage, ITT providers do just want to see potential, but they will want to see someone they can imagine standing up in front of a class in October and being able to cope with leading a session.

Try to think about the primary teachers you've seen. How did they act? Most teachers have some kind of "teacher persona" which allows them to lead a class, almost like playing a role. Could you take on any elements of this?

I'd also practice what you are going to say to an audience. You don't want to be over-rehearsed, but this will help your words come out smoothly and avoid you having awkward pauses etc etc.

Try not to let nerves take over. You can do this!

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HI! I hope this is the right thread!

I had an interview for a secondary biology SCITT programme today, but they told me they couldn’t offer me the place, as my lesson was ‘too easy’ for a group of year 7’s. I was annoyed, as I wasn’t even allowed to take part in the interview, I was sent home after the lesson. I feel like I wasn’t given a fair chance.

Can anyone give me any advice on how to make a biology lesson more engaging and interactive for my upcoming interviews.

I’m nervous now, as I feel like I won’t get a place this year.

Any advice would be appreciated!

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HI! I hope this is the right thread!

I had an interview for a secondary biology SCITT programme today, but they told me they couldn’t offer me the place, as my lesson was ‘too easy’ for a group of year 7’s. I was annoyed, as I wasn’t even allowed to take part in the interview, I was sent home after the lesson. I feel like I wasn’t given a fair chance.

Can anyone give me any advice on how to make a biology lesson more engaging and interactive for my upcoming interviews.

I’m nervous now, as I feel like I won’t get a place this year.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks ☺️

Don't take it too much to heart!(easy to say,I know) schools are usually looking for someone/something very particular and it usually isn't given away in the job description. It may be a certain level of experience; a personality; a man/woman; energy; strong behaviour management presence. Your best bet is to offer as much of those qualities as possible and showcase them during your next lesson (changing your sex may be a step too far, though).

If they've decided they don't like you early on, why waste your time by interviewing you? It's all a tick box exercise. The interview is won or lost during the lesson imo.

They are looking for passion above all else. Don't reflect too much on your lesson - as this is something you could easily change and they would overlook level of challenge if they really saw potential in you. Just remember to differentiate for high achievers next time and you'll easily avoid that pitfall. But refocus on how you're coming across while teaching.

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