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Now, I'm gonna get straight to the point here. I don't reallywant some 1.1 litre Corsa or Fiesta or any of those other crud piles that most people buy for their first car, because personally, they aren't appealing to me. Everyone has one and they are literally boring. That being said, it would be easy for me to throw it away to the scrapman (or even take it banger racing) once I'm done with it, but I'd personally like a somewhat unique car I can genuinely enjoy driving.

I've done my research on cars for young drivers to heed poor results so far. It's all the same sort of cars that are like 30cm long (VW Up, Toyota Aygo, etc) and do 0-60 in approx. 5 years. No ta, I'd rather take the bus.

Now I am a VERY fussy driver and I always will be, once I'm old enough to afford the inflated insurance imported Japanese cars tend to carry, pretty much all my cars will be Jap imports.

My dream car is a Mk3 2000(ish) Jap import Subaru Legacy B4. Pretty sad, right? You'd think a Lambo or a Merc or a Porsche is most peoples dream cars, then you have me with a 20 year old "chav car".

If you want to know my real true intentions, I'd kinda like to be insured on a B4 at a young age. As i said, they're 20 or so years old now, and even though a nice stream of good condition ones are being imported right now, in 20 years time when I may be able to afford one, it'll be a different story. They'll either be rotted, scrapped, riced, or with the remaining good ones, with owners unwilling to sell.

I've come to terms with the fact that may be extremely difficult, most likely impossible, so I've come here to re-evaluate some of my options. I'd like to know who here owned (or knew of someone who owned) an interesting car that literally no one else had, that you really enjoyed driving and would recommend. I'd love to hear some of your suggestions! Ideally, I'd like them to be friendly for younger drivers financial wise as I know a few of you have had cars with high insurance groups (i've even read some of you managed insurance on Porsche's for cheap which i still can't get my head around)
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I feel you, As a kid I lusted after, in order, Ford Capris, Toyota MR2s (MK1 & 2), R34 Skylines and Mitsubishi 3000GT's, all highly impractical and slightly phallic insurance pits

But yeah, the longer and longer i put off getting my license ect....the more all these cars are simply gone, rotted, riced ect...(Or tbh i've just got a bit smarter and realised they often look better than they own, otherwise i'd have almost bought a Hyundai Coupe)

When you say yr a very fussy driver....are you really? or do you WANT to be a fussy driver? Do you have the driving time and experience with a range of cars to really back it up?. I always thought i'd be a guy who would never like small hatchbacks for a variety of presumptive reasons, but I started in a wee 1.3 Diesel Corsa D like damn near everyone else...it kinda sucked but then i got a long loan of a 17 plate top of range Fiesta and must admit it grew on me, sure there's 10000000s of them...but I can see why it sells so well, totally practical, nippy, fun to drive with low costs.

Recently moved to an 06 Audi Sports Cab/Convertible and that's my first really indulgent car that i've got as its a bit different. (I should add that the only way i'm able to insure this at a decent price is because i've previously had 18 months of issue free hatchback driving so i can add it onto my existing policy.)
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I feel you, As a kid I lusted after, in order, Ford Capris, Toyota MR2s (MK1 & 2), R34 Skylines and Mitsubishi 3000GT's, all highly impractical and slightly phallic insurance pits

But yeah, the longer and longer i put off getting my license ect....the more all these cars are simply gone, rotted, riced ect...(Or tbh i've just got a bit smarter and realised they often look better than they own, otherwise i'd have almost bought a Hyundai Coupe)

When you say yr a very fussy driver....are you really? or do you WANT to be a fussy driver? Do you have the driving time and experience with a range of cars to really back it up?. I always thought i'd be a guy who would never like small hatchbacks for a variety of presumptive reasons, but I started in a wee 1.3 Diesel Corsa D like damn near everyone else...it kinda sucked but then i got a long loan of a 17 plate top of range Fiesta and must admit it grew on me, sure there's 10000000s of them...but I can see why it sells so well, totally practical, nippy, fun to drive with low costs.

Recently moved to an 06 Audi Sports Cab/Convertible and that's my first really indulgent car that i've got as its a bit different. (I should add that the only way i'm able to insure this at a decent price is because i've previously had 18 months of issue free hatchback driving so i can add it onto my existing policy.)
Well, I'm fussy i guess, but i suppose its more of a want, and I'm not actually overly fussy when it comes to most things, there's only a few things i will turn my nose up at.

First 2 times I ever drove were both in Citigo's. Were they fun? Well, yes, I was 12 and had never really driven before apart from kinda changing gears on my dads old Subaru. Would I own one? No. They're repulsive things, and far too small for my liking, and somewhat ugly. Ideally something Focus sized would be nice, and the Focus was something I've been considering but I'm unsure of it, I like the mk1 ST170, but again, good luck with the insurance, or finding one in good nick at this age
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(Original post by lukegibson)
Now, I'm gonna get straight to the point here. I don't reallywant some 1.1 litre Corsa or Fiesta or any of those other crud piles that most people buy for their first car, because personally, they aren't appealing to me. Everyone has one and they are literally boring. That being said, it would be easy for me to throw it away to the scrapman (or even take it banger racing) once I'm done with it, but I'd personally like a somewhat unique car I can genuinely enjoy driving.

I've done my research on cars for young drivers to heed poor results so far. It's all the same sort of cars that are like 30cm long (VW Up, Toyota Aygo, etc) and do 0-60 in approx. 5 years. No ta, I'd rather take the bus.

Now I am a VERY fussy driver and I always will be, once I'm old enough to afford the inflated insurance imported Japanese cars tend to carry, pretty much all my cars will be Jap imports.

My dream car is a Mk3 2000(ish) Jap import Subaru Legacy B4. Pretty sad, right? You'd think a Lambo or a Merc or a Porsche is most peoples dream cars, then you have me with a 20 year old "chav car".

If you want to know my real true intentions, I'd kinda like to be insured on a B4 at a young age. As i said, they're 20 or so years old now, and even though a nice stream of good condition ones are being imported right now, in 20 years time when I may be able to afford one, it'll be a different story. They'll either be rotted, scrapped, riced, or with the remaining good ones, with owners unwilling to sell.

I've come to terms with the fact that may be extremely difficult, most likely impossible, so I've come here to re-evaluate some of my options. I'd like to know who here owned (or knew of someone who owned) an interesting car that literally no one else had, that you really enjoyed driving and would recommend. I'd love to hear some of your suggestions! Ideally, I'd like them to be friendly for younger drivers financial wise as I know a few of you have had cars with high insurance groups (i've even read some of you managed insurance on Porsche's for cheap which i still can't get my head around)
Alfa Romeo MiTo. Don’t see many of them and having driving my mates 0.9T Speciale, they sound very good.

Very good to drive as well, the DNA switch was very entertaining to me, look it up if you don’t know what this is.

It stands out as there are very few of them on the roads. Also, before anybody makes reference to Alfa’s reliability, his has done several thousands of miles and hasn’t had any issues as of yet.
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How different do you want to go? My first car was a 1990 Defender 110. Second was a 1968 Morris Minor (very reasonable to insure aged 18 - about £800 I think, and this was less than 10 years ago). My 1997 Golf TDI estate was pretty fun to own and you don't see many of them around these days. Amazing on fuel and decent on insurance. With GTTDI injectors and the Evry Mod it was pretty nippy as well. GTI headlights/grille/bumper and BMW E30 wheels and she looked pretty smart too. My current car is a 2002 Golf estate with the PD130 engine - 130bhp/230lb-ft. The insurance on that is only £350 for the year but I think that's just cos I'm getting old in terms of insurance these days..

My advice would be a mk3 Golf TDI with the older VE engine - probably 90bhp but if you can find the rocking horse poo 110bhp then grab it. They're great cars - reliable, economical, and quick enough for what they are. They're good looking cars as well - much more handsome than the mk4. Cheap enough on the insurance for how nippy they are. Just gotta find one that's not been bitten by the steel cancer.
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Alfa Romeo MiTo. Don’t see many of them and having driving my mates 0.9T Speciale, they sound very good.

Very good to drive as well, the DNA switch was very entertaining to me, look it up if you don’t know what this is.

It stands out as there are very few of them on the roads. Also, before anybody makes reference to Alfa’s reliability, his has done several thousands of miles and hasn’t had any issues as of yet.
Interesting suggestion, I am a fan of Alfas, but they seem to be in quite high groups in terms of Insurance.
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How different do you want to go? My first car was a 1990 Defender 110. Second was a 1968 Morris Minor (very reasonable to insure aged 18 - about £800 I think, and this was less than 10 years ago). My 1997 Golf TDI estate was pretty fun to own and you don't see many of them around these days. Amazing on fuel and decent on insurance. With GTTDI injectors and the Evry Mod it was pretty nippy as well. GTI headlights/grille/bumper and BMW E30 wheels and she looked pretty smart too. My current car is a 2002 Golf estate with the PD130 engine - 130bhp/230lb-ft. The insurance on that is only £350 for the year but I think that's just cos I'm getting old in terms of insurance these days..

My advice would be a mk3 Golf TDI with the older VE engine - probably 90bhp but if you can find the rocking horse poo 110bhp then grab it. They're great cars - reliable, economical, and quick enough for what they are. They're good looking cars as well - much more handsome than the mk4. Cheap enough on the insurance for how nippy they are. Just gotta find one that's not been bitten by the steel cancer.
To say you've had an interesting range of cars is an understatement. That's quite a unique variety! I'm surprised a 1968 Minor cost you so little to insure, thought the insurance on vintage motors would have been a nightmare. There are a couple of sixth formers at my school who drive vintage cars (a few more if you count the few with 1993 fiat pandas), so maybe that's something to have a look at. A vintage Ford Cortina wouldn't go amiss at all.

The Golf is something I have been looking at, much prefer it to the god awful Polo. I would probably go down the Mk6 route if i was to get one, Mk3/4 are a bit old (although likely cheap as dirt, but as more and more are crushed, good quality spare parts will probably become more scarce hence more expensive) and the mark 5 is hideous imo

Another car I looked at recently was the Civic. I like the old VTEC Civics even though they tend to get riced a lot. Online shopping shows that its ultra difficult to find a nice, un-riced VTEC nowadays, but what was more of a joke (although unsurprising), was the insurance. They're in Insurance Group 21! That's crazy, a Mk4 2.0 Legacy is in Group 23, so i have no idea how these young ricers afford it.

Saying that, and I'm genuinely curious, how much would it set me back if i were to insure a Group 23 car at 17/18? Nothing online has told me anything about it. If common-ness of the car has anything to do with it, Mk4 Legacies aren't too uncommon, I see quite a few going around nowadays.
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Saying that, and I'm genuinely curious, how much would it set me back if i were to insure a Group 23 car at 17/18? Nothing online has told me anything about it. If common-ness of the car has anything to do with it, Mk4 Legacies aren't too uncommon, I see quite a few going around nowadays.
TBH No one here can give you any real workable figure, insurance is simply based on too many factors, even folk telling you what they pay is largely useless. (I pay about £1100 + monthly interest a year to insure both a 17 Fiesta & 06 Audi , but i'm old, even if a newish driver). All you can do is go to places and ask for quotes.

I totally get the urge to go off the wall a bit for that first car...but my exp was it just ends up SO much simpler to drive a wee basic hatch for a year at least to build up to something more interesting and (by then) affordable. I know that's totally what you don't want to hear :P
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Interesting suggestion, I am a fan of Alfas, but they seem to be in quite high groups in terms of Insurance.

To say you've had an interesting range of cars is an understatement. That's quite a unique variety! I'm surprised a 1968 Minor cost you so little to insure, thought the insurance on vintage motors would have been a nightmare. There are a couple of sixth formers at my school who drive vintage cars (a few more if you count the few with 1993 fiat pandas), so maybe that's something to have a look at. A vintage Ford Cortina wouldn't go amiss at all.

The Golf is something I have been looking at, much prefer it to the god awful Polo. I would probably go down the Mk6 route if i was to get one, Mk3/4 are a bit old (although likely cheap as dirt, but as more and more are crushed, good quality spare parts will probably become more scarce hence more expensive) and the mark 5 is hideous imo

Another car I looked at recently was the Civic. I like the old VTEC Civics even though they tend to get riced a lot. Online shopping shows that its ultra difficult to find a nice, un-riced VTEC nowadays, but what was more of a joke (although unsurprising), was the insurance. They're in Insurance Group 21! That's crazy, a Mk4 2.0 Legacy is in Group 23, so i have no idea how these young ricers afford it.

Saying that, and I'm genuinely curious, how much would it set me back if i were to insure a Group 23 car at 17/18? Nothing online has told me anything about it. If common-ness of the car has anything to do with it, Mk4 Legacies aren't too uncommon, I see quite a few going around nowadays.
Yeah I've had a few.. '90 Defender 110, '68 Morris Minor, '94 Golf hatch, '01 Focus estate, '02 Renault Scenic, '97 Golf estate, '02 Passat estate, '02 Suzuki Grand Vitara SWB, and now '02 Golf estate (I like 'em old, if you hadn't guessed!)

Back when I had my Moggy, a company called Adrian Flux (classic car specialists) did a deal for young Morris Minor owners who were a part of the Morris Minor Owner's Club. So you signed up for the club, proved you were a member, and Adrian Flux would do you very reasonable rates for car insurance on said car. I imagine there are other companies that offer similar products for other classic cars.

Something to bear in mind is that the NCD you accrue on a classic car policy won't carry over to a normal car policy. Well it didn't ten years ago, it might be different now but I did get screwed out of 2 years worth of NCD when I switched back to a "modern" car. I really could have done with it as a teenager!

Also spare parts availability is more down to how popular the vehicle is rather than vehicles in scrappies. There are an absolute ton of mk4 Golfs still on the roads and as such parts are really cheap and easy to source. I'm part of a few mk4 Golf Breaking groups on FaceBook which have a steady supply of cars being broken to pick parts from. There are also companies that produce parts for classic cars, Bull Motif for example will sell you pretty much anything you need to repair a Morris Minor.

Yes, mk5s are fuuuuuuuugly!
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If you dont care too much about petrol costs check out a 2.0 impreza rx. Its the top spec just under the wrx and its pretty decent as its got bucket seats, 4wd and that good ol boxer engine.
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Jaguar XJ, Genesis G90.
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I have about as much interest in cars as the average man has in knitting. Disregarding that:

1970 Buick Skylark. If I had the money to afford the car and the petrol required to drive a 4 mile a gallon car I'd absolutely love it.
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i just checked out that car and my god its sexy as f**k and sounds amazing too.
I guess when i have some disposable cash i know what im buying

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1970 Buick Skylark. If I had the money to afford the car and the petrol required to drive a 4 mile a gallon car I'd absolutely love it.
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i just checked out that car and my god its sexy as f**k and sounds amazing too.
I guess when i have some disposable cash i know what im buying
It's a sexy one for sure.
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Now, I'm gonna get straight to the point here. I don't really want some 1.1 litre Corsa or Fiesta or any of those other crud piles that most people buy for their first car, because personally, they aren't appealing to me. Everyone has one and they are literally boring. That being said, it would be easy for me to throw it away to the scrapman (or even take it banger racing) once I'm done with it, but I'd personally like a somewhat unique car I can genuinely enjoy driving.

I've done my research on cars for young drivers to heed poor results so far. It's all the same sort of cars that are like 30cm long (VW Up, Toyota Aygo, etc) and do 0-60 in approx. 5 years. No ta, I'd rather take the bus.

Now I am a VERY fussy driver and I always will be, once I'm old enough to afford the inflated insurance imported Japanese cars tend to carry, pretty much all my cars will be Jap imports.

My dream car is a Mk3 2000(ish) Jap import Subaru Legacy B4. Pretty sad, right? You'd think a Lambo or a Merc or a Porsche is most peoples dream cars, then you have me with a 20 year old "chav car".

If you want to know my real true intentions, I'd kinda like to be insured on a B4 at a young age. As i said, they're 20 or so years old now, and even though a nice stream of good condition ones are being imported right now, in 20 years time when I may be able to afford one, it'll be a different story. They'll either be rotted, scrapped, riced, or with the remaining good ones, with owners unwilling to sell.

I've come to terms with the fact that may be extremely difficult, most likely impossible, so I've come here to re-evaluate some of my options. I'd like to know who here owned (or knew of someone who owned) an interesting car that literally no one else had, that you really enjoyed driving and would recommend. I'd love to hear some of your suggestions! Ideally, I'd like them to be friendly for younger drivers financial wise as I know a few of you have had cars with high insurance groups (i've even read some of you managed insurance on Porsche's for cheap which i still can't get my head around)
What about a cheeky EP3 Civic type S may just have a 1.6 but I tell ya they love to rev and the clutch and chassis are really easy to play with.
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What about a cheeky EP3 Civic type S may just have a 1.6 but I tell ya they love to rev and the clutch and chassis are really easy to play with.
The Toyota Celica 1.8 VVTi is a good choice too. Fwd and 160-180 hp and not many young drivers have them so insurance will be a little cheaper
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And it doesn't look half bad and is surprisingly rewarding through corners.
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The Toyota Celica 1.8 VVTi is a good choice too. Fwd and 160-180 hp and not many young drivers have them so insurance will be a little cheaper
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