P92 – Decrease of UK passport fees

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P92 – Decrease of UK passport fees, _thestudent33
Decrease of UK passport fees

UK passport fees should be halved for those applying within the UK.

The price of passports can mean that less privileged members of society cannot obtain one. Thus, the government should halve the fees to make passports more affordable and accessible to those who cannot currently afford one.

This decrease only applies to Adult and Child standard 34-page passports.

The changes are as follows:

Adult (online application) From £75.50 to £37.75
Child (online application) From £49 to £24.50

Adult (paper application) From £85 to £42.50
Child (paper application) From £58.50 to £29.25
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Please excuse the spelling errors if you do find any, I did this in a hurry
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
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(Original post by _thestudent33)
What's that
It just lets me take over the OP and customise a few things.
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
It just lets me take over the OP and customise a few things.
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He’s launching a coup against you!
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He’s launching a coup against you!
I doubt it
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I was gonna say, Saracen's Fez is this more powerful than a motion?
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Ummm Saracen's Fez

At the top it says thestudent33 Mp. Even though
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B: MPs can’t submit a petition

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Ummm Saracen's Fez

At the top it says thestudent33 Mp. Even though
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B: MPs can’t submit a petition

Please fix?
I guess he's too used to it after all the motions I sent
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I was gonna say, Saracen's Fez is this more powerful than a motion?
I’m not Fez, but yes, petitions are stronger than motions because the government is constitutionally obliged to respond to a successful petition, but not a successful motion.
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On the petition itself, nay, passports are a legitimate way for the state to make revenue and I would argue that if one cannot afford a passport then one doesn’t need one anyway, because by extension they can’t afford to travel abroad.

Other cheaper methods of ID are available (provisional driving licence for example) and a birth certificate is free for all people.
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How much does it cost to administer a passport and what would be the loss of revenue as a result of this?
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Other cheaper methods of ID are available (provisional driving licence for example) and a birth certificate is free for all people.
A birth certificate is actually a poor example, since you only get one original and copies are often not accepted as ID (as more than just the person concerned can apply for a copy). They also certainly don't count as photo ID!
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How much does it cost to administer a passport and what would be the loss of revenue as a result of this?

A birth certificate is actually a poor example, since you only get one original and copies are often not accepted as ID (as more than just the person concerned can apply for a copy). They also certainly don't count as photo ID!
It raised £50m for 2018/2019 so the proposed change will cost (£25m).
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You need to at the very least include the costings.

Less privileged members of the society also cannot afford to travel. Perhaps you should work on the PASS card instead of the passport.
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If you can’t afford a passport then you can’t afford to do the things you do with a passport, namely travel. This would just be a waste of money.
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(Original post by CatusStarbright)
How much does it cost to administer a passport and what would be the loss of revenue as a result of this?

A birth certificate is actually a poor example, since you only get one original and copies are often not accepted as ID (as more than just the person concerned can apply for a copy). They also certainly don't count as photo ID!
Ehh, fair point but provisional driving licences still exist as photo ID at a much cheaper cost which means that my argument still holds I feel.
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I’ll echo questions as to how much this service costs to administer? The state should arguably either not make a profit on these or only make a small profit, if that’s what’s happening then we should leave it as is. However, if the state is performing a 100% markup (I’d be amazed if they were tbh) then absolutely.
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Given the line is that Passports are effectively issued at cost could evidence be provided to the contrary, and if not a justification be given as to why those who do not travel abroad should be made to subsidise those who do?
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Nay.

If you can't afford a Passport, and the extra £35 ish saved makes such a vital different to your fragile finances, then you probably shouldn't be travelling. Also it's hardly a fee you pay often.
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