UK Muslims angrily protest against tolerance and diversity

Yes, and I hear that countless young girls and women were systematically groomed, trafficked and sexually exploited up in the northern regions of England, with a massive cover-up campaign being implemented to maintain "community relations" between the groomers and the state. Of course, I have heard rumours of it has been going on since the 1970s, and people who often talk about it are labelled "racist" or conspiracy theorist. That is interesting though, there was an MP who was fired temporarily for mentioning it, and many police officers were made to not do much about it in fear of losing their jobs or something like that. The fact that most people aren't aware that this is going on, even to this day, scares me quite a bit.

I also hear of cases of people being murdered with others doing absolutely nothing but watching it happen. Shame, really.

Also, are you trying to sympathy bait me?

I don’t understand why the outsider program needs to be taught to primary schools kids, I had no education of gay relationships, same sex marriage through my entire school life yet I am respectful to people’s choices - there’s no real need to teach this to kids

Fair enough teach them in high school, but primary school really ??

Hold on... so you know that Islam was cobbled together from elements of existing religions - but you still think it is the infallible, revealed word of a different god?
How does that work?

You really need to look at the teaching materials. Kindness towards others is what the No Outsiders programme is about.

Yeah cause we believ all them previous religions are from the same god but have been altered by the people. All the prophets from Adam to isa (Jesus) including Abraham,Moses, Noah David etc etc all had the same religion to preach but people have altered them till the final messenger Muhammad came and Islam stayed.

Hold on... so you know that Islam was cobbled together from elements of existing religions - but you still think it is the infallible, revealed word of a different god?
How does that work?

Good. Hopefully you've learned something.

BTW, I love the way you keep ignoring that fact that your claims and arguments keep getting refuted.

@wpastudentlife
and what about ex-muslims like myself? While we were muslims, did we 'understand islam properly and what it preaches' and when we leave the religion, we suddenly 'don't understand it and shouldn't be allowed to comment'? All your saying is that your way of thinking about islam is the right way and you have to keep reading up on it until you agree with that way.

Once again, you and many so called 'moderate' muslims fail to understand this. Ex muslims and other people like @QE2 and @PlantagenetCrown are not hating on muslims, nor on Islam. Muslims are a group of people and aroud 95% of muslims are genuinely decent people who don't follow their religious book to the core. However, all religions (be it hinduism, judaism, islam etc etc) are ideologies and a set of ideas from past times. Christianity reformed to adapt with the times, with the new testament, hence criticism is less - islam hasnt changed. On the topic of ideas, ideas have every right to be scrutinized, don't try and play the islamophobia card when your ideas get questioned and no, criticising islam isnt 'offensive or inflammatory'. We acknowledge that islam has its good parts to it (like all religions), however it has parts that are out of date, violent, mysogenistic and contradictory. Problem I see with many muslims today (even the so called moderate and cultural ones) is that they accept one side of the story, but do not see the other. They blindly ignore and cover the negative aspects of the religion or they do know about the negative aspects but don't want to highlight them in order to protect their religion, at the fear of being labelled as 'islamophobic'.

At school, I'm sure you were taught to view both sides of the story and weight up BOTH pros and cons of an idea, why don't you apply this to religion? why should religion get a free pass when it comes to criticism?

When you hand in a research proposal (your ideas) at university before you start a final year dissertation , your supervisor is going to look at it in detail and will most likely challenge all the aspects to it and question you a lot on it before you proceed with the dissertation. Are you going to get all upset and 'take offense' to this? Are you going to label the supervisor as 'racist' because they're challenging you a lot? Any large set of ideas will always come into question, especially when those ideas have to be applied to everyday life in whatever country you're in.

On another note, I'm pretty sure you are fasting now. I'm also aware that the way you act and communicate is also very important during that month - its not just about starving yourself and praying. Or does this knowledge now become invalid because I'm Ex-muslim? You seem to have resorted to expletives (swear words) in your post that you covered up with '****', which would pretty much break your fast and render all that time starving yourself/ praying as useless. We know what words you used and surely your all knowing God does too! You're not going to fool God now are you, or resort to lying which is also a sin in islam.

I don't need to explain myself but i used the 'swear word' S H I T. I guess it is a really bad swear lol and i haven't been fasting, because of health reasons but do you want to judge me for that too? You're an ex muslim so you can do whatever you want, so you weigh the pros and cons and whatever you feel is right, Meanwhile, I'll pray to Allah for guidance and spiritual strength because when i pray i find peace within myself and that is the only thing keeping me going right now. I had to self medicate myself through my depression, and the way i did that was praying my namaaz, it helped me in so many ways. I'm sure you already know what namaaz is and how important is because you are an ex muslim, and i'm not going to judge you for your choice of leaving because truly only allah knows.

You and I both know that the word 's.h.i.t' is a swear word, it isnt any more or any less than other words such as 'f.u.c.k', - else why didnt you use words such as 'poo' or 'faeces'. Now I couldnt give a 's.h.i.t' about such words but you and I both know that using such language and rude words goes totally against islam and the ways a muslim should behave as people. theres no point following a list of religious rules if you come across as a rude/nasty or aggressive person in nature. Since muslims like going to imams/scholars about things why not ask them 'is it permissable for a muslim to use bad language/swear words despite being surrounded by it' or 'is my fast still valid if I use bad language or will I need to re-do this fast' - you might be interested in the responses given because believe it or not, when I used to be somewhat religious, I asked this question once!

please hear me out but I don't know how much of this you will actually read. As I've got older, I do tend to weight up the pros and cons about particular ideas a lot more - I don't take things at face value and blindly follow things like I used to do when I was in my younger years. If you feel that salah has helped you out, then I respect that. A lot of factors caused me to leave. However, please note that I learnt how to pray when I was 10 years old! I stopped when I was 18 but I like to think that I did all of my prayers on time and even woke up for fajr (morning prayer) too. I was always told to ask for forgiveness for my sins and ask god to change some negative circumstances that I was facing earlier on and ask that God that he cures my older brother who is mentally unwell. I had faith but eventually realised nothing was changing so I gave up on my faith and lost it. Bare in mind, other factors had a role in my decision to abandon my religion. Also, why would an all loving and all caring god such as allah do such a thing and make my brother suffer as much as he has done throughout his entire life. what has my brother done to deserve that from god and now I supposed to keep on praying so God can make my brother better - why did allah do something this horrible in the first place? why has allah given my brother absolutely nothing in this life?

When I was somewhat religious, I was always put down and always told that I should be doing a lot more to 'please god'. Everytime I did something , I felt I was never doing enough and it lowered myself confidence and I felt bad about myself. why did I even need the shackles of a religion? I couldn't keep up with the endless number of rulings and disagreed with a lot of the concepts as I read a lot more about them in detail.

So I abandoned religion and decided to focus on being a good human being with good personal qualities rather than someone who was desperate to tick off all the boxes on a religious checklist. many religious people lack decent personal qualities and the ability to think like a human being. sorry if I offended you but this is how I feel

This is a clear case of lacking sabr.
Prophet ayub (job) suffered hugely (lost his health,wealth and children) yet he had sabr and Allah rewarded him afterwards in the dunya and akhirah.
Yh i cant deny ive had really low points and sometimes i didnt have a lot of sabr, yet when things got better, i realised how stupid i was to feel so low and feel like no one could help me, yet the fact is I had Allah to help me.
From now on whenever im in a difficulty ayah 94:5-6 ( verily with the hardship there is relief, verily with the hardship there is relief) comes to mind as well as (Allah does not burden a soul beyond that it can bear – Surah Baqarah – V 286)

and so i make dua so that Allah helps me and after time I see that everything has become 10x better than it was before.

I said all that when i was a muslim! I had faith but I lost it. The god of islam has done nothing to help my brother with his suffering. If the god of islam is capable of performing miracles, why doesnt he make my brother better? He's more concerned about a woman wearing make-up out in public yet doesnt tackle the real issues that innocent people face or the atrocities happening in the world.

Islam made me feel insecure, islam placed shackles on my thinking, islam ruined me. I feel better now without the weight of a religion on me. While you have every right to paint islam in a positive light, I have every right to share my views on the religion and my experiences with it

You're just twisting my words now.

There's no point talking to someone who has stubbornly fixed opinions and thinks that no matter what he has the best perception of islam,

I don't need to explain myself but i used the 'swear word' S H I T. I guess it is a really bad swear lol and i haven't been fasting, because of health reasons but do you want to judge me for that too? You're an ex muslim so you can do whatever you want, so you weigh the pros and cons and whatever you feel is right, Meanwhile, I'll pray to Allah for guidance and spiritual strength because when i pray i find peace within myself and that is the only thing keeping me going right now. I had to self medicate myself through my depression, and the way i did that was praying my namaaz, it helped me in so many ways. I'm sure you already know what namaaz is and how important is because you are an ex muslim,

and i'm not going to judge you for your choice of leaving because truly only allah knows.

As a muslim, you have to rememeber in the belief that God is omnipotent, so the belief God cant help people doesnt exist.