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“John played trump like a Stradivarius”
Interesting article on Bolton and his antics with some really, in ones opinion, cutting quotes on him from some of his former colleagues.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e_iOSApp_Other
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Like a jingoistic Ned Flanders.
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Like a jingoistic Ned Flanders.
It’s the ‘tash... I just can’t get past it
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Iran is playing a very dangerous game egging the US on, especially with the current leadership who don't seem particularly sane.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SN1P7

I certainly don't think either the US or Iran want to go to war as neither side will win - Iran's military (and its economy which is already in recession) will get crushed. Whereas for the US, global fuel prices will rocket possibly doing the same to the US economy too; insurgency and instability will increase even further in the region.
But a miscalculation in either the Strait of Hormuz or by Pasdaran backed terrorist groups in the region could start an altercation that rapidly spirals out of control.
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John Bolton may be a bit of a hawk but his destroying of Kay Burley of Sky News was epic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0GtlDCS5o

He's right, people like her drag journalistic standards down and seriously erode confidence in the media as a whole.
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John Bolton may be a bit of a hawk but his destroying of Kay Burley of Sky News was epic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0GtlDCS5o

He's right, people like her drag journalistic standards down and seriously erode confidence in the media as a whole.
I’d be more inclined to take him seriously in that video if he didn’t also work for fox (a network famous for peddling flagrant lies, not just half truths) and regularly demonstrate that he’s a halfwit when it comes to history, strategy and geopolitics writ large.
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(Original post by Tempest II)
Iran is playing a very dangerous game egging the US on, especially with the current leadership who don't seem particularly sane.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SN1P7

I certainly don't think either the US or Iran want to go to war as neither side will win - Iran's military (and its economy which is already in recession) will get crushed. Whereas for the US, global fuel prices will rocket possibly doing the same to the US economy too; insurgency and instability will increase even further in the region.
But a miscalculation in either the Strait of Hormuz or by Pasdaran backed terrorist groups in the region could start an altercation that rapidly spirals out of control.
Iran needed to send two signals: one, that it can impede oil exports beyond just the Strait of Hormuz and two, that KSA's attempts to circumvent the strait via its East-West oil pipeline will not save it in the event of conflict (the Houthis did this with 7 armed drones travelling 800km deep into Saudi Arabia without being detected). Job done, I'd say.

Trump has shown he is merely a blustering bully. He threatened NK with destruction, only to meet with KJU and maintain the status quo minus the US threats (nice NK test of a Iskander copy a few days ago too). He previously Twitter-warned Iran never to threaten the US again or it would be destroyed, and now repeated the exact same warning on Twitter a few days ago.

The terrorist US regime knows very well that it can't handle a war with Iran, though Israel and Saudi Arabia definitely wouldn't mind killing thousands of Americans to destroy Iran.

In 5 years' time Iran will have ICBMs (Khorammshahr IRBM already carries a 1800kg warhead 2000km (but this is just to stay within the self-imposed 2000km limit, in reality its range is 3000-4000km) and much heavier ICBM-capable solid fuel engines are already being tested) and a latent nuclear weapon capability (via IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges which are currently being perfected) and any possibility for illegal military acts against Iran will be foreclosed for good.
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(Original post by Palmyra)
Iran needed to send two signals: one, that it can impede oil exports beyond just the Strait of Hormuz and two, that KSA's attempts to circumvent the strait via its East-West oil pipeline will not save it in the event of conflict (the Houthis did this with 7 armed drones travelling 800km deep into Saudi Arabia without being detected). Job done, I'd say.

Trump has shown he is merely a blustering bully. He threatened NK with destruction, only to meet with KJU and maintain the status quo minus the US threats (nice NK test of a Iskander copy a few days ago too). He previously Twitter-warned Iran never to threaten the US again or it would be destroyed, and now repeated the exact same warning on Twitter a few days ago.

The terrorist US regime knows very well that it can't handle a war with Iran, though Israel and Saudi Arabia definitely wouldn't mind killing thousands of Americans to destroy Iran.

In 5 years' time Iran will have ICBMs (Khorammshahr IRBM already carries a 1800kg warhead 2000km (but this is just to stay within the self-imposed 2000km limit, in reality its range is 3000-4000km) and much heavier ICBM-capable solid fuel engines are already being tested) and a latent nuclear weapon capability (via IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges which are currently being perfected) and any possibility for illegal military acts against Iran will be foreclosed for good.
Israel WILL strike if Iran continues down this path, make no mistake about it.
Plus, the KSA will also develop nuclear weapons (or just buy them from Pakistan) too should the Iranians build them.
Do you want to live in a world where two of the biggest causes of Islamic terrorism have nuclear weapons? No thanks.
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Israel WILL strike if Iran continues down this path, make no mistake about it.
Plus, the KSA will also develop nuclear weapons (or just buy them from Pakistan) too should the Iranians build them.
Do you want to live in a world where two of the biggest causes of Islamic terrorism have nuclear weapons? No thanks.
Israel didn’t dare attack in 2012 and it definitely won’t do so now. Iran is too far, too prepared and has too many avenues for retaliation. Even if Israel did attack they wouldn’t be able to stop Iran developing nuclear weapons (if Iran decided to do so). Syria and Iraq had one sole unfinished nuclear facility. Iran, much further from Israel, has dozens of nuclear facilities spread across Iran and built under mountains.

Israel has nukes so it’s perfectly legitimate for Iran to develop nukes in response and I think this would create a beneficial balance in the region and perhaps temper Israel’s aggressive actions.

As for Islamic terrorism, virtually all Islamic terrorism is Sunni inspired, when did you hear about Houthi or Hezbollah inspired Muslims commit suicide attacks in Europe for instance?
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Israel WILL strike if Iran continues down this path, make no mistake about it.
Plus, the KSA will also develop nuclear weapons (or just buy them from Pakistan) too should the Iranians build them.
Do you want to live in a world where two of the biggest causes of Islamic terrorism have nuclear weapons? No thanks.
And Israel will suffer catastrophic damage to its cities of it does... not only can Iran happily strike israe but so can Hezbollah and whilst Israel might “win” it would be exceptionally painful for them.

As for KSA it seems the general consensus is that it already has nuclear weapons, it did after all finance the Pakistani program so can be, with good reason, described as a nuclear power by proxy. To be honest, people should be far more fearful of Saudi having nukes and the tech than Iran. Iran sponsors militias and coreligionists, it hasn’t been propagating world wide terror in a long time. That is if we stick to the real definition of terrorism and not the catch all watered back term america now uses.

As to the last comment: how is it a huge sponsor of Islamic terror?
Hezbollah: not a terror group but a political militia
The groups in Iraq/Syria etc. not so much terror groups as militias as well
I will grant Hamas has terrorist tendencies but then again Iran simply gives them money to poke the Israelis in the eye.
On the flip side though both America and Israel sponsor countless terror groups and actively engage in it... I mean this isn’t just my dislike for those two countries showing through it’s a cast iron fact and has been admitted by both of them quite happily. With Syria being the best case and America currently financing a terrorist group in Iran.
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