Tommy Robinson attacked in Oldham Watch

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What goes around comes around.
Aggression, thuggery, a lawless scumbag mentality and thirst for publicity.
It would be Oldham.

Wish all these louts would be arrested, issued with massive fines, long hours of community service and held liable for the costs of legal proceedings.
Then none of them would be so keen to be habitual criminals, thugs or both.
Britain's streets would likely be a lot quieter, safer and the prisons less of a hotel for the vicious.
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You’re obsessed with him.
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Can’t say i’m surprised. Should have seen what happened to Richard Spencer. If he wants to talk big, then he has to face the consequences (even tho I don’t condone violence to anyone)
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what can i say karma is a b***h
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That isn't Tommy lol
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okay so when a few arrogant muslims throw some bricks at a guy whos racist towards them, theyre seen as the worst people on the planet. but when two million muslims in China are in concentration camps, having their teeth pulled out, being threatened with snakes, being forced to drink alcohol etc. and when innocent people in Palestine, Syria, Yemen India, Afghanistan, Sudan, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Jordan the list goes on, when theyre being slaughtered, bombed, killed, raped, having their houses burned down, being tortured all because of a VERY small percentage of people who engage in terrorism and arent actually muslims. Does that mean that because of these people 1500000000 people are responsible? Does that means that because of these people 1500000000 should suffer? according to this idiotic logic then if all Muslims are terrorists because a single digit percentage of terrorists happen to be Muslim, then all Muslims are peacemakers because 5 out of the past 12 Nobel Peace Prize winners (42 percent) have been Muslims. we as muslims know what theyre doing is wrong, we believe that these people are the worst of the worst. in our religion if you kill one person no matter what race, religion etc. its as if youve killed the whole of humanity.
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okay so when a few ignorant muslims throw some bricks at a guy whos racist towards them, theyre seen as the worst people on the planet. but when two million muslims in China are in concentration camps, having their teeth pulled out, being threatened with snakes, being forced to drink alcohol etc. and when innocent people in Palestine, Syria, Yemen India, Afghanistan, Sudan, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Jordan the list goes on, when theyre being slaughtered, bombed, killed, raped, having their houses burned down, being tortured all because of a VERY small percentage of people who engage in terrorism and arent actually muslims. Does that mean that because of these people 1500000000 people are responsible? Does that means that because of these people 1500000000 should suffer? according to this idiotic logic then if all Muslims are terrorists because a single digit percentage of terrorists happen to be Muslim, then all Muslims are peacemakers because 5 out of the past 12 Nobel Peace Prize winners (42 percent) have been Muslims. we as muslims know what theyre doing is wrong, we believe that these people are the worst of the worst. in our religion if you kill one person no matter what race, religion etc. its as if youve killed the whole of humanity.
ignorant* not arrogant
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okay so when a few arrogant muslims throw some bricks at a guy whos racist towards them, theyre seen as the worst people on the planet. but when two million muslims in China are in concentration camps, having their teeth pulled out, being threatened with snakes, being forced to drink alcohol etc. and when innocent people in Palestine, Syria, Yemen India, Afghanistan, Sudan, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Jordan the list goes on, when theyre being slaughtered, bombed, killed, raped, having their houses burned down, being tortured all because of a VERY small percentage of people who engage in terrorism and arent actually muslims. Does that mean that because of these people 1500000000 people are responsible? Does that means that because of these people 1500000000 should suffer? according to this idiotic logic then if all Muslims are terrorists because a single digit percentage of terrorists happen to be Muslim, then all Muslims are peacemakers because 5 out of the past 12 Nobel Peace Prize winners (42 percent) have been Muslims. we as muslims know what theyre doing is wrong, we believe that these people are the worst of the worst. in our religion if you kill one person no matter what race, religion etc. its as if youve killed the whole of humanity.
Islam is not a race.

Yes, well done, a lot of Muslims are persecuted in China.

Yeah in Islam it's wrong to kill people... unless they're gay or apostates or a whole list of things.
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Even if they're gay, it's not allowed unless it's self defence.
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Islam is not a race, you dum dum.

Yes, well done, a lot of Muslims are persecuted in China.

Yeah in Islam it's wrong to kill people... unless they're gay or apostates or a whole list of things.
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im not homophobic, i dont judge people who are but its clear homosexuality is prohibited in the bible, so jews Christians and muslims agree that its a major sin. gay marriages are an abnormality, its not natural. everyone knows that marriage is a relationship between a man and women and a relationship with two people who are the same sex is not marriage, this is homosexuality. its a major sin. why? because we have regulations given to from God. i dont believe in man-made laws that legitimize homosexuality. 50 years ago it was a sin, a crime youd get thrown in jail for being homosexual so in 50 years things change? How would i know if in another 50 years time, that they will not legalize incest, a man marrying their sister, daughter? How would i know if they would allow rape or to having relationships with children. this is why we as muslims only believe that the rules we should follow should be the ones from God. these are rules are whats for the best for us. Its common sense to anyone why homosexuality is wrong, if it was right why is that after 200000 years on human existance (according to scientists) has homosexuality been seen with 'something youre born with'. as for the sharia law, a homosexual is only killed when seen engaging in fornication by 4 people which rarely ever happens.
and yet islam is a man-made religion...
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and yet islam is a man-made religion...
Muhammad did not know how to read or right so how did he give the Quran to people? he spoke it. they didnt see a book, if they though of the Quran they wouldve thought of the Prophet face and his voice. For them the Prophet and the Quran were inseparable. The Quran came down in over 23 years it wasnt put into book form, it wasnt put into a data base but now it has. So what do we know? it uses the word "dunya" meaning this world/life and the word "akhirah" meaning the next life 115 times. It also uses the word angles and the word devils both 88 times. It uses the word life and the word death 145 times. The word for good deeds are mentioned 167 and the word for bad deeds are mentions 167 times. The word disbelief is mentioned 17 times and the word belief is also no doubt mentioned 17 times. The word for the devil "iblees" is mentioned 11 times and the word for seeking refuge from the devil if mentioned 11 times. the words "they said" and "say" is mentioned 332 times. How is it possible that in 23 years of revolution the Quran uses the word month only 12 times and "day" was mentioned 365 times. Think about it. Is it humanly possible that somebody speaks for 23 years about the Quran, doesnt write any of it down, and these words seem to line up perfectly? if after reading that you still believe its a man-made religion then God help you😂
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Muhammad did not know how to read or right (edit: i obviously meant write) so how did he give the Quran to people? he spoke it. they didnt see a book, if they though of the Quran they wouldve thought of the Prophet face and his voice. For them the Prophet and the Quran were inseparable. The Quran came down in over 23 years it wasnt put into book form, it wasnt put into a data base but now it has. So what do we know? it uses the word "dunya" meaning this world/life and the word "akhirah" meaning the next life 115 times. It also uses the word angles and the word devils both 88 times. It uses the word life and the word death 145 times. The word for good deeds are mentioned 167 and the word for bad deeds are mentions 167 times. The word disbelief is mentioned 17 times and the word belief is also no doubt mentioned 17 times. The word for the devil "iblees" is mentioned 11 times and the word for seeking refuge from the devil if mentioned 11 times. the words "they said" and "say" is mentioned 332 times. How is it possible that in 23 years of revolution the Quran uses the word month only 12 times and "day" was mentioned 365 times. Think about it. Is it humanly possible that somebody speaks for 23 years about the Quran, doesnt write any of it down, and these words seem to line up perfectly? if after reading that you still believe its a man-made religion then God help you😂
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Muhammad did not know how to read or right so how did he give the Quran to people? he spoke it. they didnt see a book, if they though of the Quran they wouldve thought of the Prophet face and his voice. For them the Prophet and the Quran were inseparable. The Quran came down in over 23 years it wasnt put into book form, it wasnt put into a data base but now it has. So what do we know? it uses the word "dunya" meaning this world/life and the word "akhirah" meaning the next life 115 times. It also uses the word angles and the word devils both 88 times. It uses the word life and the word death 145 times. The word for good deeds are mentioned 167 and the word for bad deeds are mentions 167 times. The word disbelief is mentioned 17 times and the word belief is also no doubt mentioned 17 times. The word for the devil "iblees" is mentioned 11 times and the word for seeking refuge from the devil if mentioned 11 times. the words "they said" and "say" is mentioned 332 times. How is it possible that in 23 years of revolution the Quran uses the word month only 12 times and "day" was mentioned 365 times. Think about it. Is it humanly possible that somebody speaks for 23 years about the Quran, doesnt write any of it down, and these words seem to line up perfectly? if after reading that you still believe its a man-made religion then God help you😂
youre really not understanding this simple concept.
islam, nor does any religion, appear in nature. islam did not exist 2000 years ago, it exists purely due to man.
and the biggest mistake you made was how you said that being gay was a sin in the past, so why change now? and then at the same time, islam did not exist in the past, so why change now?

and according to you with that last example, coincidence = divine intervention.
come on now, dont you think youre being a little bit ridiculous here?
it still baffles me that people like you think its wise to follow a religion whos god criticizes and murders his own creation for a reason they cannot change.
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shocked by how many people are ready to defend violence towards someone they don't agree with shameful
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shocked by how many people are ready to defend violence towards someone they don't agree with shameful
It’s a student forum. Get a life. Most people on here are autistic teenage retards. You won’t exactly have a civilised debate with any of them.
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shocked by how many people are ready to defend violence towards someone they don't agree with shameful
Robinson has a long history of violence, thuggery and football hooliganism. He is happy to dole out the violence when it suits him. You’ll find such people get little sympathy when they are targeted themselves.

I’m aware from previous posts from you that are quite naive, so I’m not surprised that you are in shock. But put simply, this is the way the adult world works. Get use to it.
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youre really not understanding this simple concept.
islam, nor does any religion, appear in nature. islam did not exist 2000 years ago, it exists purely due to man.
and the biggest mistake you made was how you said that being gay was a sin in the past, so why change now? and then at the same time, islam did not exist in the past, so why change now?

and according to you with that last example, coincidence = divine intervention.
come on now, dont you think youre being a little bit ridiculous here?
it still baffles me that people like you think its wise to follow a religion whos god criticizes and murders his own creation for a reason they cannot change.
In the Quran is says that God has sent revelation in every age in every period. If He was to send it to Adam, in the beginning of mankind, He knew that they wouldnt have been able to grasp it. In the Bible Jesus says "I have many things to say unto you but I cannot bear them now for he when the spirit of truth shall come, he shall guide you into all truth" So here Jesus knew but he said you will not be able to grasp it therefore, when the last and final messenger comes he will tell you when the time is right. so similarily, Allah knew very well that when the right time for the human beings to receive the last and final revelation of the Quran was 1400 years ago. So the basic message of Allah in all the scriptures in all the revelations from the revelation to the last one, the Quran was the same: that you have to believe in the same God, worship Him and no one else. So all the messengers right from the first messenger Adam right down to Noah Abraham Moses Jesus Mohammad, all of them taught the basic message of the oneness of God.
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Any violence is unacceptable especially the cowardly throwing of bricks by people wearing face masks

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(Original post by karl pilkington)
shocked by how many people are ready to defend violence towards someone they don't agree with shameful
youre right, what happened to him was wrong no one should have to go through that but, what goes around comes around. he knows that these are just the consequences for his words and actions
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