RAF REG Gunner.. Few Questions :PWatch
Been reading this forum for about an hour now and decided to sign up to it..
Hopefully you can take some time to read this...
Just want to ask a few questions cos' basically, I'm scared ****less haha!!!
I've got my Physcometric Test on the 11th of this month, basically a week away, and I'm fairly confident that I'll do good on it, I have no worries about my fitness as I got 8 Minutes 30 Seconds in the mile and a half on the treadmill last Thursday, and last time I did the bleep test I got 14.1... I'm always doing sports and I'm on a Uniformed Services course in college which is basically lots of physical fitness, mostly strength.
What's worrying me the most is after training.. what actually happens if you've passed all 22/29 weeks? I know you get assigned to a squadron, but what happens when assigned?
How long would it be until I get sent away to a different country after I've been assigned?
Also, I'm more of a relationship guy with girls, and well I'm single at the moment, but I like having a girlfriend, is there really time for this when being in the RAF Regiment?
How long would you say it will be until I start training, guessing that I pass all the Physcometric Tests and PJFT...
Finally... I've heard a lot of people on different forums claiming that the RAF Regiment Gunners don't see that much action at all, now I don't mind not being front line all the time, but I would love to be in the thick of the action from time to time going on ops and stuff... what can you tell me about this?
Thanks guys! :P
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Not a clue about selection times, varies hugely on a number of factors.
And don't worry, in the modern climate, as a gunner, you will most likely be 'in the think of it' before you know what's happened, and prossibly more often than you might want, just something to consider.
If you're interested and show it, act attentive and smart no-one is going to give you anything but credit for doing some research prior to joining up. The worst thing they can do is say no, but I can't imagine they would to be honest.
I'm not a very good swimmer either so I guess I should get a little bit better also hehe.
Hey guys, something happened today which kinda confused me a lot, a lecturer in my college on my Uniformed Services course is a Captain in the Army, I've known him for a while now, I asked him for a reference and he asked what I was joining, I said RAF Regiment Gunners, and he was saying that I am a lot better then that and have a lot more potential and should consider revising something else like the Royal Engineers, to get a trade.
In a way I guess he's right, cos' he said the only job I'm going to get later on in life if I be a gunner is something like a bodyguard in civvie street...
But tbh, nothing else in the RAF interests me apart from the Fire Service, and I was thinking of getting my driving license with the gunners, staying for 4 years, when I'm 22 switch over to the firefighters if that is possible...
Anyone know the prospects of the RAF Gunners? Cos' I would really like to do this, but my lecturer believes cos' of my GCSE's and A Level Equivlency I have, and the amount of physical fitness I have, I can be so much more... CONFUSED!!! :O
after the 29 weeks, you'll be fully trained, so theoretically you can be posted overseas straight away (Providing you're 17.5 or older)
With regards to leave once you're with your Sqn, unless you're on exercise/ops, its pretty much 9-5 work, so your free time is your own to do what you want with.
You'll get hardly any free time during the 29 weeks of training
Trainee Gunner courses start every 3 weeks, so its just down to when you have your interviews at the AFCO etc, but it took me 3 months, from initial application to start of TG.
Personally, I think the RAF is miles better than the Army. Regiment guys are better trained and better looked after (you'll see this on your PGAC) but also you get qualifications such as NVQ2 in Policin and Security, so you can come out and join Civvy police, or any Civvy emergency service, but you can also get degrees that the RAF will pay for, so you can come out and get any job you want basically.
RAF Regt is a specialist unit, which bears similarities to Marines and Paras, with better benefits though.
Maybe do a tour with you one day haha. Good luck on your TG course!
1. Beware professional 'blinkers', that is the view that no-one in any of the other Services is as good as the people in your Service. It's fine if it stays at the level of banter, it's irresponsible if it is offered as genuine careers advice.
2. Your career after the Services is based on a lot more than the actual 'piece of paper' qualifications you have. Future employers are more likely to judge you on the general qualities they perceive in Service personnel eg task focus, teamwork, leadership etc. That is much more important than a couple of NVQs and a BTEC. As an ex-Gunner you are going to have a lot more opportunities than body-guarding.
Hopefully I'll pass my physcometric tests on Wednesday.
To the guy enquiring,
1st thing that made me 'laugh out loud' was the fact the Army guy said that you should try better, sounded like he was snubbing the RAF which is definately not uncommon from the Army.
The RAF Regt doesnt limit you to holding a gun and patrolling bases year in-year out. You get a non-repayable learning grant every year and will be able to get Uni Degrees, A-Levels or even just re-take your GCSE's. Theres loads of Squadrons with loads of oppurtunities. E.G NBC Squadron, learn how to protect from Chem/Bio warfare. 2 SQ, get your para wings after a 10 week extensive pre-para training course which is highly sought throughout all the forces. You can also volunteer for arctic warfare training where I think they take you to a remote area in Canada. Jungle Warfare training, used to be in Sierra Leone but has moved somewhere. And also Desert training.
Regarding the relationship questions, to cut to the point, if you are happy to have a girlfriend and only see her a half the year than you are fine, its just the other way round you have to look at it, 75% of girls probably wont be interested in someone they only see half the year unless its properly serious. I have a gf and have been together for 2 years now and we're going to see how it goes from next week (TG).
PGAC is a pretty easy affair, bleep test, sit ups, press ups, 50m swim (piss even for the weakest swimmer) and the 3 mile run which is the killer for a few people.
The RAF Regt are recruiting very quickly at the moment so if your at the aptitude test stage now, expect the test, then a formal interview, then a medical, pgac, final interview, TG. Usualy would take between 6-10 weeks but from what other PGAC lads were saying, your looking at anything between 3-8 weeks.
Hope the very long winded answer helps you out. I'm 19 and have wanted to be in the Regt since I was 15. Absolubtely kicking myself I didn't join up then.
Oh, and yes. The Regt are right in the thick of it matey
And we all get new guns next year.
+++great pay. £13,013 for 29 weeks as 'AC' then move on to 'LAC' then after a year the pay jumps up to £16,000 'SAC'. Loads of aspects of promotion etc. Food and rent in Honington is daylight robbery (for them) we get it cheap as piss. Can't really fail the aptitude test, I got 96% on the whole thing and I think you only need about 33% to pass.
Good luck !
There seems like a lot of propects from the gunners, I don't think there is from basic infantry in the Army. I want to try that artic and jungle warfare! The PGAC seems fairly easy as you said, 3-8 weeks, I hope so!
Oh, I'm also 18 at the moment, I think I've signed up at the right time, I finish college on the 20th of this month, and I'm the fitest and strongest I've ever been so this must help a lot.
Maybe see you sometime! On a tour? Hehe.
The 2 major differences between Army Infantry/RAF Regt
1: We get trained on more things from gear to warfare
2: They take anyone, the Regt is much more selective on trainees.
I take it that your college course is either city & Guilds or full on A-Levels? If they are A-Levels, why choose Aircrew over Officer?
Also just noticed your a Scoucer :P I met a good mate on here whos from Liverpool going on the same TG course as me.
Are you currently doing any training?
Edit: Have you looked into the Squadrons, if yes, which ones would you want to go for initially?
I do lots of training a week, to get myself as fit as I can for the PGAC and TG.
I've looked a little bit into the Squadrons, 51 seems like the one for me at the moment. Which one are you interested in?
Full on A-Levels, choosing aircrew over officer because I want to be in the fighting with the boys!
I presume you mean Groundcrew? Aircrew = Pilot, WSO or WSOp.
Everyone else is Groundcrew - although that term is usually limited to those who work closely with the aircraft, ie the engineering team, movers etc.
Regt Gunner is a Ground Trade, Regt Officer is a Ground Branch.
And you are always best off going for the highest entry point that your qualifications allow, so if you have the minimum quals for Officer, look very closely at entering at that level. This is the next 20ish years of your life you could be preparing for, not just the next couple of years.
It's just all the small terms that are easy for people in the services but slightly confusing for people joining up.
Anyways... I have my physchometric test today, in about an hour or so... wish me luck!
The corporal guy said to me "You got a very, very high score for a gunner." Hehe...
Just a question guys, it says, if you get to goto the PGAC, if you are coming from 50 miles away, get a taxi from the train station and make sure you get a reciept so they can reinburse you, this means you pay the taxi guy, ask for a receipt, then goto where you have to go and they will give you the money back?
Also, what is this new gun the Regiment are getting next year?
Well done though on your test mate.
One last question along with the taxi one I asked also... How long is the TG course? The RAF guys keep saying its 22 weeks, someone told me it was 29. Hmmm.
The TG course is also 29 weeks now as it combines the field gunners course, however you still graduate at 22 weeks and receive your mudguards hope this helped
It's just that it says if you're travelling from more then 50 miles away which I am, you should turn up on Monday after 3pm and get a taxi from the train station...