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Hi guys,
I was thinking of applying for the pilot officer role in RAF. But because I am 24, I will try my best to do the selection test. But I was thinking what if I don't get enough marks for the pilot role. Is there other ways to become a pilot in RAF? What if I do another role like engineering in RAF as I have a qualification. But can I still become a pilot. Is this a possibility?

Sorry for the strange questions. But any advice would be great.
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So you're effectively asking if you can buy your way in and out, rather than doing things by the books?

If you are not capable of passing the tests, completing the training, etc. you can't bribe your way in by paying. It's not like taking a driving test, and you can't just buy a qualification. If this is your attitude towards being in the RAF, I'd probably say you're better off looking at other careers. Money is not a substitute for hard work and ability.
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I didn't say I want to buy my way and get a free qualification. I said if I choose another career like an engineer. Can I pay to get pilot training and train and get a pilot license in RAF? No need to be rude. Nor I am super rich. Im just saying is there a way to get the training even though I am not a pilot in RAF.
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So you're effectively asking if you can buy your way in and out, rather than doing things by the books?

If you are not capable of passing the tests, completing the training, etc. you can't bribe your way in by paying. It's not like taking a driving test, and you can't just buy a qualification. If this is your attitude towards being in the RAF, I'd probably say you're better off looking at other careers. Money is not a substitute for hard work and ability.
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You can pay for a civil license whilst in the RAF using learning credits provided by the MoD but the training will be done with a civilian company, not using the same aircraft as military pilot trainees.
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Why not just save up for a PPL?
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ok thats fine. I just want to train as a pilot. Anyway I am good. Thanks
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You can pay for a civil license whilst in the RAF using learning credits provided by the MoD but the training will be done with a civilian company, not using the same aircraft as military pilot trainees.
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ok thats fine. I just want to train as a pilot. Anyway I am good. Thanks
For clarity, that won’t make you an RAF pilot, it will just make you a member of the RAF with a civilian pilots license.
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Im going in the RAF anyway. I want to be a pilot but if not that then I ll choose another role. Was just wondering if I can train to become a pilot privately myself while doing another role. Thanks
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Why not just save up for a PPL?
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(Original post by AmanCheema)
I didn't say I want to buy my way and get a free qualification. I said if I choose another career like an engineer. Can I pay to get pilot training and train and get a pilot license in RAF? No need to be rude. Nor I am super rich. Im just saying is there a way to get the training even though I am not a pilot in RAF.
Nobody is a pilot until they've had the training. You don't become a pilot, and then get trained. The fact that you are not a pilot is irrelvant to whether you can get training, simply because pilots are the ones that have already been trained.

As I said before, it's not like a driving test. As an engineer, you can't suddenly decide "I want to be a pilot", pay for some test and then be a pilot. RAF pilots are going to be chosen based on a number of criteria and in some cases if you do not have the skills you won't develop them later. For example if you missed out because of poor reflexes or eyesight, they are not going to get any better with age.

Paying for pilot training and getting a more general pilots licence is another matter entirely. Taking the RAF out of the equation entirely, there may be nothing stopping you from getting a pilots licence. As above, it appears you may be able to get training provided while in the RAF as well. But that's not the same as becoming a pilot in the RAF.
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(Original post by AmanCheema)
Im going in the RAF anyway. I want to be a pilot but if not that then I ll choose another role. Was just wondering if I can train to become a pilot privately myself while doing another role. Thanks
In that case, why even have RAF in the equation? You might as well work for a better company if you're going to get a pilot license privately anyways right?
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Just calm down or just don't reply. "you can't bribe your way in by paying. It's not like taking a driving test, and you can't just buy a qualification." This is what you said. I am not bribing anyone. And your statement about buying a qualification means you said that I want to buy the license instead of the training. You could have said paying for the training. And paying for a training does happen. Don't you pay for the BSc course. Buying the BSc course means you are buying the degree. Just don't reply if you can't talk normally. Don't take your anger on my post.
I just wanted to train for a pilot. By RAF or normally it doesn't matter.
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Nobody is a pilot until they've had the training. You don't become a pilot, and then get trained. The fact that you are not a pilot is irrelvant to whether you can get training, simply because pilots are the ones that have already been trained.

As I said before, it's not like a driving test. As an engineer, you can't suddenly decide "I want to be a pilot", pay for some test and then be a pilot. RAF pilots are going to be chosen based on a number of criteria and in some cases if you do not have the skills you won't develop them later. For example if you missed out because of poor reflexes or eyesight, they are not going to get any better with age.

Paying for pilot training and getting a more general pilots licence is another matter entirely. Taking the RAF out of the equation entirely, there may be nothing stopping you from getting a pilots licence. As above, it appears you may be able to get training provided while in the RAF as well. But that's not the same as becoming a pilot in the RAF.
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Sorry, I think my post isn't clear. I mean I want to go to RAF. It would be great if I go for the pilot role. But if not then I would still go there but choose something else. Also just wanted to know that then can I at least train as a pilot by paying. But I got my answer that I can't. And that I can only get the normal pilot license. As career for now I want to go to RAF
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Just calm down or just don't reply. "you can't bribe your way in by paying. It's not like taking a driving test, and you can't just buy a qualification." This is what you said. I am not bribing anyone. And your statement about buying a qualification means you said that I want to buy the license instead of the training. You could have said paying for the training. And paying for a training does happen. Don't you pay for the BSc course. Buying the BSc course means you are buying the degree. Just don't reply if you can't talk normally. Don't take your anger on my post.
I just wanted to train for a pilot. By RAF or normally it doesn't matter.
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(Original post by AmanCheema)
Just calm down or just don't reply. "you can't bribe your way in by paying. It's not like taking a driving test, and you can't just buy a qualification." This is what you said. I am not bribing anyone. And your statement about buying a qualification means you said that I want to buy the license instead of the training. You could have said paying for the training. And paying for a training does happen. Don't you pay for the BSc course. Buying the BSc course means you are buying the degree. Just don't reply if you can't talk normally. Don't take your anger on my post.
I just wanted to train for a pilot. By RAF or normally it doesn't matter.
I apologise if my post came across as blunt and has caused offence. That wasn't my intention. But your original post appeared to be saying "If I fail my selection to become a pilot, can I go into some other role and just pay to become a pilot later". Similarly you were asking (and it's been edited out now) if you could pay to get out early. All in all, it looked as though you just wanted to pay your way in and out as and when you want, so hopefully you can understand the confusion here.

At the end of the day, if you fail initially there's probably a reason for that. And that reason is likely not something fixable (because if it were they could invest in your training and fix the problem). That doesn't prevent you from pursuing other avenues to become a pilot, but if you're not fit for the role then it's unlikely you'll become fit for it at a later date. Good luck all the same of course
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That's fine. I just wanted to know if there is an option in the RAF where you could get some flying experience by paying like a hobby. If not it doesn't matter. I can get that afterwards normally. Ideally I would like to be an RAF pilot but if not that then Ill just do it as a hobby on the side. Thanks
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I apologise if my post came across as blunt and has caused offence. That wasn't my intention. But your original post appeared to be saying "If I fail my selection to become a pilot, can I go into some other role and just pay to become a pilot later". Similarly you were asking (and it's been edited out now) if you could pay to get out early. All in all, it looked as though you just wanted to pay your way in and out as and when you want, so hopefully you can understand the confusion here.

At the end of the day, if you fail initially there's probably a reason for that. And that reason is likely not something fixable (because if it were they could invest in your training and fix the problem). That doesn't prevent you from pursuing other avenues to become a pilot, but if you're not fit for the role then it's unlikely you'll become fit for it at a later date. Good luck all the same of course
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(Original post by AmanCheema)
That's fine. I just wanted to know if there is an option in the RAF where you could get some flying experience by paying like a hobby. If not it doesn't matter. I can get that afterwards normally. Ideally I would like to be an RAF pilot but if not that then Ill just do it as a hobby on the side. Thanks
NFI's suggestion above of using MoD credits is one possible route, and simply paying for something outside the RAF is another. There are plenty of avenues that will allow you to get flying experience, just not on RAF aircraft unless that's what you are training for. This is the sort of thing you'd want to make clear when going through their process though, as it's important for the RAF to understand what your motivations and goals are. If they know this is what you want, they can point you in the right direction when things come up.
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So, don't quote me on any of this and I have no details whatsoever other than what I witnessed.

A friend of mine in the Army was learning to fly via what I believe was a RAF UOTC that was connected to our camp.
He already had some experience from I think air cadets before he joined.
It was on civilian style what I call "cesna" planes.
He was using the experience and recommendation to attempt a transfer to RAF Pilot - no idea if he was successful.
This was 4ish years ago.
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That's fine. I just wanted to know if there is an option in the RAF where you could get some flying experience by paying like a hobby. If not it doesn't matter. I can get that afterwards normally. Ideally I would like to be an RAF pilot but if not that then Ill just do it as a hobby on the side. Thanks
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If you want to become a pilot you'd need to go through the proper training and pass language, technical and fitness tests and probably a mental health check but I'm not completely sure but as above you can't buy your way in to a career in the military. It's something that you have to work hard for and I know it can take a while before a vacancy actually pops up.
(Original post by AmanCheema)
I didn't say I want to buy my way and get a free qualification. I said if I choose another career like an engineer. Can I pay to get pilot training and train and get a pilot license in RAF? No need to be rude. Nor I am super rich. Im just saying is there a way to get the training even though I am not a pilot in RAF.
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What do you mean by "flying experience"?

If you aren't an RAF Pilot and you want to learn to fly you can just pay for it like any other person would at a civilian flying school. If you want to fly in military aircraft then there's no way to do that, even by paying, unless it's as a passenger.

(Original post by AmanCheema)
That's fine. I just wanted to know if there is an option in the RAF where you could get some flying experience by paying like a hobby. If not it doesn't matter. I can get that afterwards normally. Ideally I would like to be an RAF pilot but if not that then Ill just do it as a hobby on the side. Thanks
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