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I would say that I am a feminist too and i believe that women can do the same jobs as men, however I don't believe that they are the same physically. Men biologically have bigger lungs and hearts, so therefore can run faster, lift more, etc.
So part of me disagree that men and women are completely equal in every way. What do you think?
I think men and women are physically equal though. Sure there's some things that men are better at ie their typically stronger, faster etc, however there are some things women can do and men can't physically. They live longer, they can hold a baby, they can feed a baby with their bodies, which is really incredible. But just because I can get pregnant and produce milk when a man's body can't, that doesn't in any way mean my body is superior to his. It's just different.

Ask yourself this- "Is food better than drink? Do I prefer food or drink?" You'd probably argue that those two things are incomparible, that you don't have a favourite and it's silly to say one is superior to the other. Well male and female bodies are the same. I don't believe my ability to feed a child with just my body makes me superior to men, nor should men believe that superior physical strength makes their bodies better than mine.

Men and women are equal physically, their bodies just have different talents.
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Jesus 100% did break the laws of the Old testament. In order to test Jesus, unbelievers brought him a terminally ill person and asked him to heal him. They knew that the sabbath was the day of rest and believed that if Jesus was the true messiah he wouldn't cure the man. Jesus did cure the man and when they told him he shouldn't have, he said 'the sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath'. Jesus knew that doing the most loving thing was more important than rules, he recognised that rules, such as the one suggesting you rest on the sabbath are designed to serve man 'sabbath was made for man', not to be used against him 'not man for the sabbath'.

In the sermon on the mount, Jesus directly opposed a direct quote from the bible. The bible says 'an eye for an eye'. When his follower asked him about that law he directly said that that law was wrong and that his followers should turn the other cheek.

The bible says do not kill as one of the ten commandments yet, as you pointed out, there is another part that says theres a death penalty for rapists.
It's an inescapable fact that the bible offers contradictory advice. that's why I follow the overall message of the bible as opposed to the smaller rules- that of love
not so, the Pharisees liked to add to the law making the traditions of man the commandments of God, such as handwashing. this is the same in this case, the Pharisees were adding to Gods law. Jesus cannot break any laws otherwise he's now a sinner, Jesus cannot sin. also, the Sabbath is a shadow of things to come, just like the animal sacrifices and dietary laws, these were all done away with in the new testament.

Jesus did not oppose exodus 21, how can he oppose himself? when he said that in exodus, it was for the government to follow out, not just us individuals, Jesus's main teaching there was to teach grace and mercy, if someone hits you, instead of taking revenge and hitting them back, just turn the other cheek. nowhere did he say the law was wrong, the law is not sin.

there's no contradictory advice, firstly you must be reading these modern versions that's why, i strongly recommend a KJV, secondly, you're simply misinterpreting and not fully studying the bible, many just read a verse here and a verse there and then say "contradiction!" without reading the context or comparing scripture with scripture as advised in Corinthians. my advice is to read the whole bible cover to cover to get the bigger picture, then you'll be able to see how everything goes hand in hand and isn't contadictory.

am i going to get that question answered?
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My friend who a male was abused by his wife in public she hit in the face and spat at him.1/6 men are abused by a woman in their lifetime and women who abuse men get lower sentences than males who abuse females. Also in teenage relationship females are more likely to hit their male partner than the other way round. Which is wrong I know four males friends who were abused by females they never got any form of justices. Also, the most violent relationship is same-sex gay women it 1/4. So don't believe that female are the only victims like a lot of feminists make out because males are too
Your statistics are wrong. 1/6 men aren't abused. 1/5 women are abused and 1/71 men are abused.
Your example is very sad and I hope your friend is doing ok.
Feminist organisations have raised loads of money for domestic abuse shelters for both men and women, as well as telephone lines to help men and women suffering from domestic abuse. None of us believe that women are the only victims, but we are way more likely to suffer domestic abuse. Moreover, we're also way way more likely to die from domestic abuse or to sustain a serious injury from domestic abuse.
Best wishes to your friend
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the reason males don't live as long as women is not biology it because men did more physical and dangerous jobs than women so they died young. Now men are doing more offices jobs they are living longer and by 2030 they will live as long as women.
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I think men and women are physically equal though. Sure there's some things that men are better at ie their typically stronger, faster etc, however there are some things women can do and men can't physically. They live longer, they can hold a baby, they can feed a baby with their bodies, which is really incredible. But just because I can get pregnant and produce milk when a man's body can't, that doesn't in any way mean my body is superior to his. It's just different.

Ask yourself this- "Is food better than drink? Do I prefer food or drink?" You'd probably argue that those two things are incomparible, that you don't have a favourite and it's silly to say one is superior to the other. Well male and female bodies are the same. I don't believe my ability to feed a child with just my body makes me superior to men, nor should men believe that superior physical strength makes their bodies better than mine.

Men and women are equal physically, their bodies just have different talents.
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Of course they should receive the same sentence for the same crime
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hey, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.
In terms of laws I'd change, I can't think of any at the top of my head
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not so, the Pharisees liked to add to the law making the traditions of man the commandments of God, such as handwashing. this is the same in this case, the Pharisees were adding to Gods law. Jesus cannot break any laws otherwise he's now a sinner, Jesus cannot sin. also, the Sabbath is a shadow of things to come, just like the animal sacrifices and dietary laws, these were all done away with in the new testament.

Jesus did not oppose exodus 21, how can he oppose himself? when he said that in exodus, it was for the government to follow out, not just us individuals, Jesus's main teaching there was to teach grace and mercy, if someone hits you, instead of taking revenge and hitting them back, just turn the other cheek. nowhere did he say the law was wrong, the law is not sin.

there's no contradictory advice, firstly you must be reading these modern versions that's why, i strongly recommend a KJV, secondly, you're simply misinterpreting and not fully studying the bible, many just read a verse here and a verse there and then say "contradiction!" without reading the context or comparing scripture with scripture as advised in Corinthians. my advice is to read the whole bible cover to cover to get the bigger picture, then you'll be able to see how everything goes hand in hand and isn't contadictory.

am i going to get that question answered?
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Hey, thanks for posting again. I wrote this thread because I wanted people to know that feminists such as myself are normal and that we don't hate men.
I hope you won't get offended when I say that your idea of what a feminist is and what a feminist believes is what the media has told you rather than the truth. Maybe 0.01% of feminists fit your description. I don't think that feminism has 'done the job' it's needed to at all. Women have equal rights under law, but in the real world they aren't treated as equals to men quite yet. I don't think the gender pay gap is a myth at all, please let me know why you think it is a myth so I can understand why you think that.
I don't believe in gender quotas, most of us don't believe in gender quotas. I think feminists do a lot more than you realise. We start charities for those in LEDCs, we raise awareness of slut shaming, we draw attention to those in positions of power who have used that power perhaps to use women. We start charities for mens mental health, to raise money to counter period poverty in the UK, we build shelters for men and women who have suffered from sexual or physical abuse. We do loads, but maybe you just haven't required those services yourself, so you haven't seen them.
I don't think pro-lifers are tyrannical women controllers. Again, that is a false stereotype about feminists promoted by the media.

In terms of 'denying the possible legitimacy of gender roles', may I ask what you mean?
On the gender pay gap: watch from 4:55 in this video

On gender roles: some feminists say that womens' supposed increased proclivity towards motherhood in comparison to that of men is entirely socially constructed. This is not true.

And I congratulate feminists for work in LEDCs. And again, I think it is a minority of women who vilify men, but it is that minority which most people tend to associate with the word 'feminism' nowadays.
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hey, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.
In terms of laws I'd change, I can't think of any at the top of my head
okay sure, cool discussion.
okay, if any come to mind, be sure to let me know
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the reason males don't live as long as women is not biology it because men did more physical and dangerous jobs than women so they died young. Now men are doing more offices jobs they are living longer and by 2030 they will live as long as women.
It's also because of men's higher suicide rate.
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My statistics are right it 1/6 I did a course at work on DV by women to men

Of those that suffered from partner abuse in 14/15, 29% of men and 23% of women suffered a physical injury, a higher proportion of men suffering severe bruising or bleeding
Male victims (39%) are over three times as likely as women (12%) not to tell anyone about the partner abuse they are suffering from.
Lesbian women (12.4%) as a percentage also suffered far more partner abuse compared to heterosexual women (4.3%)
27 organisations offer refuge or safe house provision for male victims in the UK - a total of 105 spaces, of which 31 are dedicated to male victims only
3% of men who are rough sleepers is due to partner abuse (86% of all rough sleepers are male)
Young women in a student survey are just as likely to be aggressive towards their partners as men, possibly even more.

https://www.mankind.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/35-Key-Facts-Male-Victims-March-2018-1.pdf


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Your statistics are wrong. 1/6 men aren't abused. 1/5 women are abused and 1/71 men are abused.
Your example is very sad and I hope your friend is doing ok.
Feminist organisations have raised loads of money for domestic abuse shelters for both men and women, as well as telephone lines to help men and women suffering from domestic abuse. None of us believe that women are the only victims, but we are way more likely to suffer domestic abuse. Moreover, we're also way way more likely to die from domestic abuse or to sustain a serious injury from domestic abuse.
Best wishes to your friend
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Hey, I'm a feminist, I'm sure this threads already been done but if you'd like to ask me anything go ahead. I will answer anything
What sort of treatment are you getting from the NHS for this disease?
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Even as a woman, this image of some sort of patriarchy in Western society or the idea we are paid less solely based on sex, is nonsense, which is why the majority of women do not associate themselves with the feminist movements and its labels...

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On the gender pay gap: watch from 4:55 in this video

On gender roles: some feminists say that womens' supposed increased proclivity towards motherhood in comparison to that of men is entirely socially constructed. This is not true.

And I congratulate feminists for work in LEDCs. And again, I think it is a minority of women who vilify men, but it is that minority which most people tend to associate with the word 'feminism' nowadays.
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What sort of feminist? I.e. radical, cultural, liberal, anarcho-feminist, intersectional etc?
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Guys before asking questions, look back to see whether I've already answered them. It's driving me a little bonkers having to explain the same thing several times
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What sort of feminist? I.e. radical, cultural, liberal, anarcho-feminist, intersectional etc?
Idk, never heard of those distinctions. I guess not radical?
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Hey, I'm a feminist, I'm sure this threads already been done but if you'd like to ask me anything go ahead. I will answer anything
Nice to see! Most people are but are so ignorant to what feminism is. It's like comparing Islam and Islamic terrorism, there's an incredibly thin thread that connects the two by a whisker. Feminism and radical feminism are really two completely different ideologies that are connected by a slight thread. It's as to see when people don't say they are feminists, it's now like a taboo.
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Even as a woman, this image of some sort of patriarchy in Western society or the idea we are paid less solely based on sex, is nonsense, which is why the majority of women do not associate themselves with the feminist movements and its labels...
Mate, I sure hope you didn't think your five minuite youtube video was going to make me change my mind after spending years researching the gender pay gap.
The gender pay gap is not a myth. Look on the first page of this thread, I explain why the gender pay gap is real and I'm not explaining it again.
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Alright, I'll spell out a couple of points for you about the pay gap.

So in your points in the first page, you gave a subjective social commentary without any scientific claims. I highly doubt you have been researching the pay gap for years.

I'll give one reason for the pay gap's existence; there are many more. There is a psychological trait known as agreeableness, which in other words is how 'nice' you are. On average, men are less agreeable than women, meaning they are more likely to ask for pay rises than are women. Hence, men earn more for the same job on average.
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Aren't you just an Egalitarian? For example, what rights does a man have through legislation over a woman in the Western World..?
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