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POLL!!! Close down all universities outside the top 50

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Reply 40
Original post by Student-95
Why them? Why not the guardian or the Times?
Wouldn't it make more sense to come up with a new ranking with criteria that companies care about?


The complete university guide is the most comprehensive out there imo. But yes, a new ranking could be developed with each university independently assessed
Reply 41
Original post by brodem
I completely disagree , there are so many universities outside the top 50 that offer courses with good prospects , and how are you expecting 50 universities to hold nearly a million students that apply for university each year??


That’s the point, there should be far less students. What’s the point in making people feel better about themselves by giving them a place at uni when they’re just going to end up unemployed for five years or flipping burgers?
Original post by Bazyli
The top 50 ranked universities in the uk, according to the complete university guide

Why that ranking?

Which year are you going to base this on?

What about the specialist rankings that the complete publish? Do they go too?

Have you written to your MP to make your case for this? I’m sure they’ll give it the attention it deserves.
Original post by Bazyli
That’s the point, there should be far less students. What’s the point in making people feel better about themselves by giving them a place at uni when they’re just going to end up unemployed for five years or flipping burgers?


This is legitimately the most disgusting thing I've seen all day and I had to talk to HMRC.
Original post by Bazyli
The complete university guide is the most comprehensive out there imo. But yes, a new ranking could be developed with each university independently assessed


Why not the government devised ranking of teaching quality? All non Gold TEF universities could have taught degree awarding powers removed.
Reply 45
Original post by MoonPatrol
This is legitimately the most disgusting thing I've seen all day and I had to talk to HMRC.


The unemployment figures speak for themselves. Getting a university degree should equate to better employment prospects yet certain degrees from certain universities fail to adequate equip students for the real world. You need to get out of your bubble if you’re offended by that
Reply 46
Original post by PQ
Why not the government devised ranking of teaching quality? All non Gold TEF universities could have taught degree awarding powers removed.

How well a university teaches does not equate to good employment prospects. You would therefore shut down the medicine department at UCL for example since it attained a silver? Universities exist for a wide range of purposes but you cannot seriously suggest for a second that forking out 9k a year for media studies at London met is beneficial for the student or the economy
Reply 47
Original post by PQ
Why that ranking?

Which year are you going to base this on?

What about the specialist rankings that the complete publish? Do they go too?

Have you written to your MP to make your case for this? I’m sure they’ll give it the attention it deserves.


A suitable ranking would need to be devised will value for money as one of the factors. I don’t believe any ranking currently qualifies. Who bothers writing to their MP anymore?
Original post by Bazyli
Oxford Brookes is hardly the destination of oxbridge rejects. Of course institutions such as the one you mentioned would be kept open along with the medicine departments of others outside the top 50, i just can’t believe the billions that is spent on courses of little value to the economy. I would assess each university independently before scrapping courses of course


Oxford Brookes and Durham are the exact destinations of the rejects
Original post by mnot
RVC does not appear on the rankings anyway (only on the vet subject specific ones...), obviously that's not the type of institution OP is on about. brookes is not an OxBridge reject school.

But bringing back Polytechniques would probably just be the easier route.

Also what is a top 50 uni? cos Uni rankings are a terrible guide for which unis to keep & reclassify... for example Kings, Liverpool & Leicester are all ranked outside of the top 50 yet Coventry, Trent and uea are top 20 (Guardian 2019).

Brookes is outside the top 50 - get it shut by this posts logic, and lets be realistic everyone you know that applied to Oxbridge and was rejected either reapplied or went to Oxford Brookes or Durham

Liverpool is in the top 50 (complete university guide)
Original post by VMD100
Brookes is outside the top 50 - get it shut by this posts logic, and lets be realistic everyone you know that applied to Oxbridge and was rejected either reapplied or went to Oxford Brookes or Durham

Liverpool is in the top 50 (complete university guide)

ok my point was about ranking the top 50 generally gaurdian/CUG there both total BS.

In what world does an OxBridge reject go to Brookes. Imperial, UCL, Durham, Warwick, Bristol, Notts, Manchester, St Andrews etc... way more likely to go to any of these Unis. If they applied to Oxbridge in the first place it means they are likely an AAA+ student already, why would they go to Brookes where people get let in with like BBB
Reply 51
Original post by VMD100
Brookes is outside the top 50 - get it shut by this posts logic, and lets be realistic everyone you know that applied to Oxbridge and was rejected either reapplied or went to Oxford Brookes or Durham

Liverpool is in the top 50 (complete university guide)


Original post by VMD100
Oxford Brookes and Durham are the exact destinations of the rejects


People who get into oxford and Cambridge attain at least AAA. I know people who have got into Oxford Brookes with BCC. The only instance where an oxbridge reject would go to brookes is if they failed their exams and were completely out of their depth
Original post by Bazyli
Considering the amount of money spent on keeping these so-called institutions open, I believe it would be preferable to shut all poorly-ranked universities that offer courses with extremely limited career prospects. Apart from ripping students off, they merely act as reassurance to those students who attained Cs and Ds at A level, who should really be looking at more vocational placements. The government could even make university free, especially for courses such as medicine, the sciences, law, maths, economics and humanities at the top-ranked institutions. The fact that students are paying the same for one of these courses as they are for Dance Studies shows how much the standard of higher education has fallen in the past two decades. Therefore, shut down all of these pointless universities outside the top 50 that are sucking less academically-able students dry!!!!!


Why do you care? Someone said you are French? Is this correct? Why would you care what the UK does for its citizens.
Why don't we just reduce the cost by eliminating the useless degrees? (*cough cough* liberal arts anyone?). Less courses, less departments, less money. I get it would get rid of jobs, but these failed actors and actresses have their degree to fall back on! What company ISN'T looking for someone who can scuttle across a stage like a crab?
Reply 54
Original post by 999tigger
Why do you care? Someone said you are French? Is this correct? Why would you care what the UK does for its citizens.

Since when was this debate about race? Unless the race of those attending university matters to you? No one in this thread has mentioned I’m french so idk where that’s come from
Reply 55
Original post by ProperLad
Why don't we just reduce the cost by eliminating the useless degrees? (*cough cough* liberal arts anyone?). Less courses, less departments, less money. I get it would get rid of jobs, but these failed actors and actresses have their degree to fall back on! What company ISN'T looking for someone who can scuttle across a stage like a crab?

Finally, someone gets it. Although you’ll probably be reported
Original post by Bazyli
Finally, someone gets it. Although you’ll probably be reported

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Original post by Bazyli
Since when was this debate about race? Unless the race of those attending university matters to you? No one in this thread has mentioned I’m french so idk where that’s come from


It is relevant because you are seeking to close down opportunities for UK students. I find that laughable.
Why not moan about the French system?
Not as though these threads about banning things that benefit an OP whilst disadvantaging other people havent been made time and again.
We see them on a regular basis on TSR, thats why most people cba to respond to you.

If you actually wanted real debate then your poll options wouldnt be so ridiculously biased towards you.
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Reply 58
Original post by 999tigger
It is relevant because you are seeking to close down opportunities for UK students. I find that laughable.
Why not moan about the French system?
Not as though these threads about banning things that benefit an OP whilst disadvantaging other people havent been made time and again.
We see them on a regular basis on TSR, thats why most people cba to respond to you.

If you actually wanted real debate then your poll options wouldnt be so ridiculously biased towards you.

I live in the uk and pay taxes to the uk economy. The actual point is the people doing these courses aren’t helping themselves. Not everyone is destined to go to university, and that’s not what the economy needs. In effect you’re just supporting the devaluation of higher education and dumbing down courses so no one is left out or feels discriminated against. None of this equates to employability I’m afraid
Original post by Bazyli
That’s the point, there should be far less students. What’s the point in making people feel better about themselves by giving them a place at uni when they’re just going to end up unemployed for five years or flipping burgers?


But there are people from the top 50 unis who are unemployed while grads from lower ranked unis have good jobs.
(edited 4 years ago)

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