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I'm in year 12 now, waiting on my mock results but I don't know if I want to apply to veterinary medicine or not. I love animals but my friends keep telling me medicine is better and with animals, I have to learn multiple body parts of different animals also the pay isn't good. I haven't found much animal related work experience. Most of my work experience would be good for normal medicine. Those who are studying veterinary medicine or know someone, would you recommend it? if veterinary medicine doesn't work out for me, in the future I want to be able to foster animals depending on my time schedule.
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Please don't do medicine just because your friends say its better! And don't do it because of the salary! Choose what YOU want to do, not what everyone is telling you to do. There is still time for you to get work experience, see if there is a farm, vet, animal shelter etc near to you. I have a friend who even went to a Hindu temple for vet work experience and she helped look after their cows.
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Maybe try adding a poll to the thread-it would be easier to see what people think
(Original post by wxgmak)
I'm in year 12 now, waiting on my mock results but I don't know if I want to apply to veterinary medicine or not. I love animals but my friends keep telling me medicine is better and with animals, I have to learn multiple body parts of different animals also the pay isn't good. I haven't found much animal related work experience. Most of my work experience would be good for normal medicine. Those who are studying veterinary medicine or know someone, would you recommend it? if veterinary medicine doesn't work out for me, in the future I want to be able to foster animals depending on my time schedule.
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Thank you for this! I've looked but where I live there aren't many opportunities for me to get experience but I will look for some!
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Please don't do medicine just because your friends say its better! And don't do it because of the salary! Choose what YOU want to do, not what everyone is telling you to do. There is still time for you to get work experience, see if there is a farm, vet, animal shelter etc near to you. I have a friend who even went to a Hindu temple for vet work experience and she helped look after their cows.
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Yes I'm a human doctor so I'll be biased when I say do Medicine.
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but u ask for bank details so u must be broke
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lol jks guys- this is a joke about AMA threads-ecolier really doesn't take bank details


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Yes I'm a human doctor so I'll be biased when I say do Medicine.
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but u ask for bank details so u must be broke
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lol jks guys- this is a joke about AMA threads-ecolier really doesn't take bank details

I'm just not a fan of AMAs

But yes - a broke doctor is a happy doctor
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lol
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I'm just not a fan of AMAs

But yes - a broke doctor is a happy doctor
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Do what you love because at the end of the day you don’t want to have any regrets. Even if veterinary may require you to learn different animal bodies etc if you enjoy it and think long term it will be worth it if you want to be a vet go for it !!!
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Work experience with animals is essential for you to decide if vet med is for you, and you are unlikely to get in without it (though a couple of universities don't ask for much). Only you can decide which you want to do, they are really very different careers, I know vet med was the right one for me.

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I'm in year 12 now, waiting on my mock results but I don't know if I want to apply to veterinary medicine or not. I love animals but my friends keep telling me medicine is better and with animals, I have to learn multiple body parts of different animals also the pay isn't good. I haven't found much animal related work experience. Most of my work experience would be good for normal medicine. Those who are studying veterinary medicine or know someone, would you recommend it? if veterinary medicine doesn't work out for me, in the future I want to be able to foster animals depending on my time schedule.
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I'd rather be a human doctor.
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The pay for vets isn't as good compared with a doctor, however if you went on to set up your own or became partner in a practice you would be very comfortable lets put it that way

Veterinary is far more exciting though
All vets are trained to do pretty impressive surgery, the same cannot be said for doctors. Most human surgeons have one speciality and that is it. So you may be the ortho that does hip replacements - aka all you do all day every day is hip replacements. Whereas as a vet your op list is really limited only by what equipment your practice has and your own ability.

As far as learning all the anatomy goes, sure there are species differences but don't let that put you off tbh it is not that complicated once you understand the anatomy of a dog to transfer it across to other species and add in the differences.

Loving animals is definitely not reason enough alone to become a vet, I'd argue if you love them so much possibly a bad career as you'll spend a lot of time euthanising them. Do some veterinary work experience and see what you think at the end of that!
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Vets definitely don't get paid as much as human doctors in the long run, but the variety is exciting and the job is rewarding. It;s more competitive to apply to be a vet than for human medicine; work experience is vital, not just to help you decide whether it is the job for you but also for the application itself.
With regards to salary, although I am fairly comfortable in the sense that I can afford some luxuries, I am still struggling to buy a house and if I want to progress in my career to become a specialist, I will have to work very long hours for peanuts (for 4+ years).Whereas in medicine your salary is progressive and increases gradually so you are not penalised for wanting to progress clinically.
There is a massively high drop out rate, and a higher rate of suicide in veterinary surgeons - the job is very stressful at times so it's not all about cuddling puppies.
Partnership opportunities and setting up your own practice in the face if increasing corporatisation and the decreasing pet/farming population means this is not an easy route to earn more money and I see plenty of practices locally going bust or selling to corporates.
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(Original post by SilverstarDJ)
Vets definitely don't get paid as much as human doctors in the long run, but the variety is exciting and the job is rewarding. It;s more competitive to apply to be a vet than for human medicine; work experience is vital, not just to help you decide whether it is the job for you but also for the application itself.
With regards to salary, although I am fairly comfortable in the sense that I can afford some luxuries, I am still struggling to buy a house and if I want to progress in my career to become a specialist, I will have to work very long hours for peanuts (for 4+ years).Whereas in medicine your salary is progressive and increases gradually so you are not penalised for wanting to progress clinically.
There is a massively high drop out rate, and a higher rate of suicide in veterinary surgeons - the job is very stressful at times so it's not all about cuddling puppies.
Partnership opportunities and setting up your own practice in the face if increasing corporatisation and the decreasing pet/farming population means this is not an easy route to earn more money and I see plenty of practices locally going bust or selling to corporates.
As a previous practice owner (for 25 years) who is still involved in the profession I don’t hear of very many practices at all going bust, most owners sell if they want out. Plenty are expanding and opening new branches. The main issue at the moment is finding staff and no vet = no practice. At least one of the corporates is closing their non profitable branches, I’m sure that a lot of the issues with these will be related to staffing difficulties. I repeat my statement from above that in my opinion there is no better time to be the owner of an independent practice.
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The pay for vets isn't as good compared with a doctor, however if you went on to set up your own or became partner in a practice you would be very comfortable lets put it that way
Easier said than done when corporates are paying 6-10x EBITDA for established practices and a new setup can easily cost £100,000s to fit out

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As a previous practice owner (for 25 years) who is still involved in the profession I don’t hear of very many practices at all going bust, most owners sell if they want out. Plenty are expanding and opening new branches. The main issue at the moment is finding staff and no vet = no practice. At least one of the corporates is closing their non profitable branches, I’m sure that a lot of the issues with these will be related to staffing difficulties. I repeat my statement from above that in my opinion there is no better time to be the owner of an independent practice.
I agree that there is always a place for independent practice, however it is quite a crowded marketplace. You have to offer something different and be very good at what you do. Unfortunately very few achieve this.

I've known of a couple of "grassroot" practices to be very successful but I've known far more that limp on for years. Often these practices are being subsidised by an individual or company with very deep pockets, in the hope that one day it's fortunes will be magically transformed or a corporate can be hoodwinked into buying it!
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Yes, you do need to understand business to run a successful practice as well as think about where you site it and what clientele you are aiming for. There's a lot of help out there for independents if they look for it and those struggling should do that as the corporates aren't very often hoodwinked!

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Easier said than done when corporates are paying 6-10x EBITDA for established practices and a new setup can easily cost £100,000s to fit out


I agree that there is always a place for independent practice, however it is quite a crowded marketplace. You have to offer something different and be very good at what you do. Unfortunately very few achieve this.

I've known of a couple of "grassroot" practices to be very successful but I've known far more that limp on for years. Often these practices are being subsidised by an individual or company with very deep pockets, in the hope that one day it's fortunes will be magically transformed or a corporate can be hoodwinked into buying it!
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Where on earth do you work??


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i am doing my third year as a veterinarian and honestly i wouldn't do it. daily i see the soul of a living animal leave its body, its eyes going white and its body going limp. i hold it in my arms as it literally DIES wxgmak. i watch it decay in its grave, rotting with gangrene. wxgmak i am telling you, i beg you with all of my heart to not become a vet. you know i love you, please don't do it.

my cousin is doing her fifth year as a human doctor and daily she has to roll a dying person down the hallway of an infection-ridden hospital. wxgmak, tell me, are we living in the middle ages again? are we meant to get an infection while in a hospital. i went last year with the common flu and came out with heart disease.

in conclusion, just work in subway wxgmak, i only want the best for you.
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