Breaking News: Oil Tankers Attacked in the Gulf of Oman Watch

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https://twitter.com/search?q="Gulf+of+Oman"

it looks like Iran are pushing the USA to the brink.... not good :emo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D87nEPmXkAANj21.jpg:large
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/13/oil-...f-of-oman.html
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One of the tankers has now sunk, according to Reuters™

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...edName=topNews

Mr Trump will not stand by & let this rogue nation behave like this

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One of the tankers has now sunk, according to Reuters™

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...edName=topNews

Mr Trump will not stand by & let this rogue nation behave like this

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There is literally no evidence to say Tehran is behind this yet. Are you actually capable of making a post that doesnt betray your rabid xenophobic hatred for Iranians?

Not to mention you dont seem to know what a rogue nation is, going by the context you attempted to use there. Either that or you're irony impaired.
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It's not confirmed but at least one of the attacks may have carried out by a torpedo.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ack-gulf-oman/

It's rather difficult not to place Iran as the prime suspect here due to previous threats to close the Straits of Hormuz and recent actions against the GCCs; hopefully more information will come to light soon. They have the capability with Kilo class submarines to sink tankers undetected. Incidents like this always cause oil prices to spike which puts pressure on the West. With the US sanctions forcing countries away from purchasing Iran's oil, it suits them to disrupt other nation's oil supply too.
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(Original post by the bear)
https://twitter.com/search?q="Gulf+of+Oman"

it looks like Iran are pushing the USA to the brink.... not good :emo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D87nEPmXkAANj21.jpg:large
Here comes War
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It's clearly disingenuous to pin the incident on Iran, though attention to detail is not one of Pompeo's gifts. The press conference he gave afterwards was ridden with lies, he cited multiple transgressions committed by the Houthi rebels, implicating Iranian involvement. While there are many sources pointing toward Iranian backing of the Houthis, if the USA's plan of action is to initiate armed conflict against Iran then all it just serves to perpetuate the blind fidelity that the US has to Saudi Arabia. If they had a genuine concern for humanitarian need, then they'd have urged the Saudis to halt the war in Yemen and the US would stop funding the conflict. All this will lead to is an umpteenth regime change war where the nominal motive is to safeguard allies, but really it is to gain access to the nationalised oil reserves in Iran. In foreign policy, economic gain always trumps altruistic efforts to actually use the nation's power as a force for good.
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It's clearly disingenuous to pin the incident on Iran, though attention to detail is not one of Pompeo's gifts. The press conference he gave afterwards was ridden with lies, he cited multiple transgressions committed by the Houthi rebels, implicating Iranian involvement. While there are many sources pointing toward Iranian backing of the Houthis, if the USA's plan of action is to initiate armed conflict against Iran then all it just serves to perpetuate the blind fidelity that the US has to Saudi Arabia. If they had a genuine concern for humanitarian need, then they'd have urged the Saudis to halt the war in Yemen and the US would stop funding the conflict. All this will lead to is an umpteenth regime change war where the nominal motive is to safeguard allies, but really it is to gain access to the nationalised oil reserves in Iran. In foreign policy, economic gain always trumps altruistic efforts to actually use the nation's power as a force for good.
I dont think its unreasonable to see them as prime suspect, but they will have to find evidence. Obviously someone is doing it.
You immediately go off subject and maybe you would do better in a thread about the oil tankers to errmmm talk about the oil tankers.
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It's not confirmed but at least one of the attacks may have carried out by a torpedo.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ack-gulf-oman/

It's rather difficult not to place Iran as the prime suspect here due to previous threats to close the Straits of Hormuz and recent actions against the GCCs; hopefully more information will come to light soon. They have the capability with Kilo class submarines to sink tankers undetected. Incidents like this always cause oil prices to spike which puts pressure on the West. With the US sanctions forcing countries away from purchasing Iran's oil, it suits them to disrupt other nation's oil supply too.
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It's clearly disingenuous to pin the incident on Iran, though attention to detail is not one of Pompeo's gifts. The press conference he gave afterwards was ridden with lies, he cited multiple transgressions committed by the Houthi rebels, implicating Iranian involvement. While there are many sources pointing toward Iranian backing of the Houthis, if the USA's plan of action is to initiate armed conflict against Iran then all it just serves to perpetuate the blind fidelity that the US has to Saudi Arabia. If they had a genuine concern for humanitarian need, then they'd have urged the Saudis to halt the war in Yemen and the US would stop funding the conflict. All this will lead to is an umpteenth regime change war where the nominal motive is to safeguard allies, but really it is to gain access to the nationalised oil reserves in Iran. In foreign policy, economic gain always trumps altruistic efforts to actually use the nation's power as a force for good.
yeah but it was Iran

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I dont think its unreasonable to see them as prime suspect, but they will have to find evidence. Obviously someone is doing it.
You immediately go off subject and maybe you would do better in a thread about the oil tankers to errmmm talk about the oil tankers.
Implying the government had direct involvement, as some media outlets and Pompeo definitely conveys, is at least at this moment baseless. I was relating the occurrences to the growing hostility the US has shown Iran in the past months. If you don't want to broaden the scope of conversation that's fine, though discussing the greater implications yields far more discussion.
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Cui bono? It certainly is not Iran. Meanwhile, the U.S., which has steadily increased its naval presence in the Gulf as of late, and has been itching to topple the Islamic Republic since the mullahs toppled the U.S.-backed dictatorship in Iran prior to the 1979 Revolution, clearly benefits from such attacks.

In addition, the fact that Iran was a key player in preventing the U.S., Israel, the Gulf states and their lapdogs in Western Europe from toppling the Assad government has only increased their desire for conflict with Tehran.

I have never seen such a blatant false flag attack.
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Implying the government had direct involvement, as some media outlets and Pompeo definitely conveys, is at least at this moment baseless. I was relating the occurrences to the growing hostility the US has shown Iran in the past months. If you don't want to broaden the scope of conversation that's fine, though discussing the greater implications yields far more discussion.
err not really there are community rules about staying on subject.
You detract from the interest and seriousness of the actual event without wheeling off into your diatribe. It is DULL. There are hundreds of such threads already.
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yeah but it was Iran
Yeah Iran would definitely attack two oil tankers delivering oil to Japan whilst a Japanese leader is in Iran for the first time since 1978!


Get back in your cupboard you deranged zionist.
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Cui bono? It certainly is not Iran. Meanwhile, the U.S., which has steadily increased its naval presence in the Gulf as of late, and has been itching to topple the Islamic Republic since the mullahs toppled the U.S.-backed dictatorship in Iran prior to the 1979 Revolution, clearly benefits from such attacks.

In addition, the fact that Iran was a key player in preventing the U.S., Israel, the Gulf states and their lapdogs in Western Europe from toppling the Assad government has only increased their desire for conflict with Tehran.

I have never seen such a blatant false flag attack.
The biggest give away is that Shinzo Abe is currently in Iran, marking the first visit to Iran by a Japanese leader since 1978 - and we are to believe that this is the time Iran chose to attack a Japanese ship?! :lol:
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While I'm in no way an apologist for the Iranian regime, I can not fathom what they would gain from these attacks, particularly given the US military buildup.

However I trust the US and British governments to provide us with accurate information. After all, they were entirely vindicated after the Iraq invasion uncovered massive stockpiles of WMDs.
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can't wait for the next series of SEAL Team now
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While I'm in no way an apologist for the Iranian regime, I can not fathom what they would gain from these attacks, particularly given the US military buildup.

However I trust the US and British governments to provide us with accurate information. After all, they were entirely vindicated after the Iraq invasion uncovered massive stockpiles of WMDs.
There is a not completely unbelievable suspicion that the Saudis might have their fingers on this one. After all it's not exactly without precedent for countries to engage in such loutish behavior - least of all the home of modern terrorism.
(Original post by Tempest II)

It's rather difficult not to place Iran as the prime suspect here due to previous threats to close the Straits of Hormuz and recent actions against the GCCs; hopefully more information will come to light soon. They have the capability with Kilo class submarines to sink tankers undetected. Incidents like this always cause oil prices to spike which puts pressure on the West. With the US sanctions forcing countries away from purchasing Iran's oil, it suits them to disrupt other nation's oil supply too.
On the other hand last time they did that (well more Iraq but still) the US put near enough their entire navy to the bottom of the Gulf.
Let me put it this way, who does it suit more for such actions to happen? The HAwks in Washington who are salivating at the chance to kill some Iranians, the Israelis/Saudis/UAE who want to see Irans wings clipped with a few air strikes. Or Iran, who know full well the firepower aimed at them not but a couple of hundred miles away (not to mention the fact a head of state is current there). You may call the Government there whatever you like but they are realists and rationalists above all else.
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I dont think its unreasonable to see them as prime suspect, but they will have to find evidence. Obviously someone is doing it.
Like in Iraq?
I make no comment on who did it, after all there are very convincing theories for a multitude of actors having been behind it, but what we can undeniably say is that if US intelligence says it it is almost certainly either exaggerated, delusional or an out right lie. They do have a rather long and sordid history of getting it wrong... every single time.
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Like in Iraq?
I make no comment on who did it, after all there are very convincing theories for a multitude of actors having been behind it, but what we can undeniably say is that if US intelligence says it it is almost certainly either exaggerated, delusional or an out right lie. They do have a rather long and sordid history of getting it wrong... every single time.
Ok your alternative is they find no evidence. You will moan either way.
These attacks arent happening by accident and I will just wait and see if they continue.
Rather than moaning about it I will wait to see what evidence comes forward and how it develops.
Maybe there will be conflict and maybe there wont. The people I feel sorry for if there is conflict will be the ordinary non political people of Iran.
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Ok your alternative is they find no evidence. You will moan either way.
Oh dont be such a petulent child. They have already found no evidence and blamed Iran regardless.
These attacks arent happening by accident and I will just wait and see if they continue.
No ****? :lol:
Rather than moaning about it I will wait to see what evidence comes forward and how it develops.
Do you even know what the word moaning means or are you just being your usual childish self and lobbing insults?
See above for your "evidence" comment.
Maybe there will be conflict and maybe there wont. The people I feel sorry for if there is conflict will be the ordinary non political people of Iran.
Pfft of course you do.
Almost every analyst and specialist is in agreement that any attack on Iran will do nothing but strengthen the governments there. I say Governments seeing as there are effectively two. All war will do is weaken the elected one no end and bring back someone who will make Ahmadinejad look like a jolly nice fellow.
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