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Applying for 2020 entry. I know I want to be a lawyer but I'm not sure whether in England or in Scotland, so 2-3 of my choices will be for Scots Law.

Oxford is always a bit of a long shot so I want to know what people view as the third 'best' UK uni for English Law, specifically for reputation, teaching quality and general undergraduate experience.

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(Original post by Farenheit1999)
Applying for 2020 entry. I know I want to be a lawyer but I'm not sure whether in England or in Scotland, so 2-3 of my choices will be for Scots Law.

Oxford is always a bit of a long shot so I want to know what people view as the third 'best' UK uni for English Law, specifically for reputation, teaching quality and general undergraduate experience.

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It's all subjective but I would say Durham.

LSE and UCL are also very highly regarded, but student satisfaction tends to be lower in London so I would personally pick Durham for the undergraduate experience
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They are all a bit of a long shot. Dividing the field, as it were, is a good way to end up disappointed. The top law courses have low offer rates.
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It's all subjective but I would say Durham.

LSE and UCL are also very highly regarded, but student satisfaction tends to be lower in London so I would personally pick Durham for the undergraduate experience
Interesting - why do you think satisfaction is lower in London? Cost of living?
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They are all a bit of a long shot. Dividing the field, as it were, is a good way to end up disappointed. The top law courses have low offer rates.
I'm probably going to apply to Oxford, KCL, Edinburgh, Glasgow and another English uni, somewhere between Oxford and KCL in terms of competitiveness. My predicted are A*A*A which I'm confident of getting
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Interesting - why do you think satisfaction is lower in London? Cost of living?

I'm probably going to apply to Oxford, KCL, Edinburgh, Glasgow and another English uni, somewhere between Oxford and KCL in terms of competitiveness. My predicted are A*A*A which I'm confident of getting
Those predictions do not guarantee a place.
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One of LSE/UCL/KCL/Durham.

There's not a big enough difference in rep or teaching standards between them, so it's gonna boil down to which one's environment you personally prefer.

If anything, the fact that it does boil down to individual preference suggests that asking about the 'third best' is pointless. There's no clear answer to this.
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Maybe go to some open days and read the uni websites
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Interesting - why do you think satisfaction is lower in London? Cost of living?
Yes, mainly cost of living - accomodation in particular but also food, travel and nights out. Other factors include the fact that lots of people aren't actually living in the centre of London, so it can be harder to meet up to socialise (a fair few will be commuting from their homes in the suburbs and others will be renting somewhere far out because they can't afford central London rent). You won't get the same sense of community that you would get somewhere like Durham, and the sports facilities probably won't be as good, or at least not as convenient. Also, London attracts more international students who tend to keep to themselves a bit more.

Durham also has disadvantages of course; being a tiny city I would guess it's more likely to get boring after a while
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Durham is a lovely city. I applied to uni there, but didn’t get in. I know someone who goes and they adore it. At times it seems to think it’s like Oxbridge, with the wearing of gowns etc. So it maybe the next best thing if you want the traditional experience. However I always say the course is king so the suitability of the course, rather than the surroundings, should be your main consideration
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Yes, mainly cost of living - accomodation in particular but also food, travel and nights out. Other factors include the fact that lots of people aren't actually living in the centre of London, so it can be harder to meet up to socialise (a fair few will be commuting from their homes in the suburbs and others will be renting somewhere far out because they can't afford central London rent). You won't get the same sense of community that you would get somewhere like Durham, and the sports facilities probably won't be as good, or at least not as convenient. Also, London attracts more international students who tend to keep to themselves a bit more.

Durham also has disadvantages of course; being a tiny city I would guess it's more likely to get boring after a while
To your point, UCL's law course is 68% international. But Durham's is 51% international, so it's not exactly homogenous.
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To your point, UCL's law course is 68% international. But Durham's is 51% international, so it's not exactly homogenous.
Yeah, yeah London's still more international than Durham
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I'd say it's a toss up between UCL and LSE.


I've always been a fan of UCL on a personal level, I think they have more of an appealing culture and brand than LSE (but that's by the by).
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Yeah, yeah London's still more international than Durham
Indeed. I know what "more" means.

I just don't want the OP to get the impression that integrating at Durham is significantly easier. When I have been on campus, it has been like down town Hong Kong. Half expected Lara Croft to rock up with a crossbow.
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Firstly many universities do not accept A levels on its own. You will probably need LNAT for those you are looking at. It depends whether you feel you will be happy studying in London. If you then apply to LSE/UCL/Kings. If not look at Durham and Exeter if you feel happier in a smaller environment
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UCL / LSE
then Durham
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Half expected Lara Croft to rock up with a crossbow.
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I should add that I can't afford to go to open days and I would prefer a city environment
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If you cannot afford to go to open days how on earth are you going to afford the living costs particularly in London. Maybe you ought to consider northern universities which tend to be cheaper to live. Manchester or Leeds for big cities or Durham for a small city. The cost of living in London is very expensive and maybe you would be best forgetting about places like Kings, UCL or LSE.
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I should add that I can't afford to go to open days and I would prefer a city environment
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If you cannot afford to go to open days how on earth are you going to afford the living costs particularly in London. Maybe you ought to consider northern universities which tend to be cheaper to live. Manchester or Leeds for big cities or Durham for a small city. The cost of living in London is very expensive and maybe you would be best forgetting about places like Kings, UCL or LSE.
Because when I am studying I will receive a student loan and any additional bursaries and scholarships.
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As an esteemed Durham citizen of over 18 years, DON'T COME HERE! DON'T!
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