2/3 of Tory party members believe certain areas of the UK operate under Sharia Law Watch

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Surely a good way to integrate would be to not govern your own community under Sharia Law and instead use British Law? Also to make some sort of effort to learn English (for the 22% of Muslims who cannot speak English)

I appreciate though that particularly in the case of the latter it might not entirely be their own fault; thankfully the younger generation of Muslims seem to be less religious and more liberal
I don't think many communities are actually governed under sharia law, apart from marriage I don't think anything in terms of law is done outside of the British rule of law with the exception of a few very small minorities that take matters into their own hands, however Muslims themselves have called on the government to shut these down. 22% is a relatively small number considering many of these immigrants are from war torn countries, middle aged/elderdly and you haven't said how long these people have been in the country.. I've never come across a Muslim who can't speak English in this country, and I was once going to mosques regularly but yeah all immigrants should put in the effort to learn the home language, I'm sure its required for citizenship these days?... Imagine how the Spanish feel when we go to their country and talk English slowly to them hoping they'll catch on and act like they're the dumb ones for not talking English

And look at all the struggle young Muslims go through despite their liberal attitudes, islamophobic attacks on the rise, islam being trash talked 24/7, having views they don't even agree with thrown at them and defining them.....

I just read your story and I'm sorry that happened to you, it sounds disgraceful and an awful thing to go through. I hope you feel okay now and realise the odds were just against you, these things are rare, I can't believe things like that actually happen It’s unfair to see it as an entire community attacking you as I’m sure many would stand up against it, however I understand the view a member of a community is a representative of them since s(he) is a product of it, and so can be responsible for your perspective and experience of them.
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We’re threw the looking glass here people... we now have quantifiable evidence that a bunch of Brain dead chimps are somehow about to force a new PM on the country..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8971731.html
Interesting, now that a poll supports your position you seem to have disregarded your concern about their supposed inherent flaw.
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Also to make some sort of effort to learn English (for the 22% of Muslims who cannot speak English)
This 2011 profile of British Muslims found only 6% “struggled with English”. Where is this 22% figure from?
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Interesting, now that a poll supports your position you seem to have disregarded your concern about their supposed inherent flaw.
Not really? I stand by my opinion that polls are inherently flawed. That doesn't mean they don't serve as useful indicators though. Especially when its a cast iron fact the Tory party are bigoted against Muslims.

Also, since when have i had a position on tory party members believing we live under a sharia state? I don't recall once voicing an opinion on it.
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Surely a good way to integrate would be to not govern your own community under Sharia Law and instead use British Law?
Err almost all do and they're still governed by British law either way.
Also to make some sort of effort to learn English (for the 22% of Muslims who cannot speak English)
We both know this is a specious crock of **** of a claim.
thankfully the younger generation of Muslims seem to be less religious and more liberal
Remind me whats inherently wrong with being religious? - this coming from an ardent atheist but i'd be curious to know why you hate Islam as opposed to any other religions. Not to mention the 2nd generation etc. are the ones who cause more problems than their parents who generally assimilated quite well.
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Are you insinuating that I’m lying? I don’t care if you don’t believe me; it happened.
Yeah you’re lying. You’re on the student room, the land of many trolls
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Bit of a misleading thread title.
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Nice mis-quote in the thread title. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant though.
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Err almost all do and they're still governed by British law either way.

We both know this is a specious crock of **** of a claim.

Remind me whats inherently wrong with being religious? - this coming from an ardent atheist but i'd be curious to know why you hate Islam as opposed to any other religions. Not to mention the 2nd generation etc. are the ones who cause more problems than their parents who generally assimilated quite well.
https://fullfact.org/immigration/22-...speak-it-well/

The 6% is from the Muslim council of Great Britain, my figure is the official government figures

Yeah but they still use the sharia courts to break the equality laws in divorce proceedings

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...796.html%3famp
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Okay pal whatever you say 👍🏻
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Yeah you’re lying. You’re on the student room, the land of many trolls
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We’re threw the looking glass here people... we now have quantifiable evidence that a bunch of Brain dead chimps are somehow about to force a new PM on the country..
Oh, sweet irony... :moon:
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https://fullfact.org/immigration/22-...speak-it-well/
(Original post by Admit-One)
This 2011 profile of British Muslims found only 6% “struggled with English”. Where is this 22% figure from?
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Oh, sweet irony... :moon:
Do you feel personally attacked here or something?
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https://fullfact.org/immigration/22-...speak-it-well/

The 6% is from the Muslim council of Great Britain, my figure is the official government figures

Yeah but they still use the sharia courts to break the equality laws in divorce proceedings

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...796.html%3famp
I remain highly dubious of the stat of 22%... Either way in fairness to people who speak English as a second language, most of them speak real English better than the natives. The mangling of the Queen that goes on these days is terrible.
Also, since when can you judge who speaks English based on their religion? I mean of all the ridiculous metrics to try and abuse this one takes the biscuit. Are you referencing Arabs, Persians, Malayas, Indonesians, Indians, Pashtuns, Certain Africans or what?

I'm not sure a couple of isolated instances (never mind the specificity of them) really helps in your claim here...
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We’re threw the looking glass here people... we now have quantifiable evidence that a bunch of Brain dead chimps are somehow about to force a new PM on the country..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8971731.html
Well they're not really wrong.There are certain places where Muslim influence is troubling.I don't see any white British people standing outside schools and protesting a book about two male penguins.Do you?
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Err almost all do and they're still governed by British law either way.

We both know this is a specious crock of **** of a claim.

Remind me whats inherently wrong with being religious? - this coming from an ardent atheist but i'd be curious to know why you hate Islam as opposed to any other religions. Not to mention the 2nd generation etc. are the ones who cause more problems than their parents who generally assimilated quite well.
What's right with being religious?
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Well they're not really wrong.There are certain places where Muslim influence is troubling.I don't see any white British people standing outside schools and protesting a book about two male penguins.Do you?
Err you are aware the local MP (or possibly Councillor) went over and offered his support right? He was white... Plenty of people of all races and religions find the idea of teaching children that transsexualism and what not is a normal way of life, troubling. There is absolutely nothing uniquely islamic about this.
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What's right with being religious?
Very little in ones view but that isnt quite the point here. I tend to find the average Muslims beliefs far more tolerable than some bible thumping evangelical or god forbid Mormon etc.
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Bit of a misleading thread title.
How so? It's literally the title of the quoted article?
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Not really? I stand by my opinion that polls are inherently flawed. That doesn't mean they don't serve as useful indicators though. Especially when its a cast iron fact the Tory party are bigoted against Muslims.

Also, since when have i had a position on tory party members believing we live under a sharia state? I don't recall once voicing an opinion on it.
Haha so a poll can be a useful indicator of Islamaphobia but not of antisemitism? What evidence do you have to support your position against the Conservative party?

Your position, quite obviously, is one of dislike for the Conservative party.
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