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It's certainly cheaper and can fly far longer than the current helicopters the police use.
Depends a lot on what they're talking about. Not as if the Met will be getting Reapers...

The one in the article has a battery life of under an hour
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Depends a lot on what they're talking about. Not as if the Met will be getting Reapers...

The one in the article has a battery life of under an hour
From what I gather, one of the selling points of the new Protector RPAS is to be able to use it for domestic UK tasking such as disaster and emergency response. Unlike the Reaper, it'll be certified to operate in more classes of airspace.
However, as I'm certain you're aware of, with all military programmes there's usually a sizeable gap between the planned intent and the reality; the biggest stumbling block at the moment appearing to be the lack of experiences crews that the RAF has to meet the demands.
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Nobody tell FoS about satellites...
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He refused to rule it out does not mean he will definitely fo it. We are scaremongering. Everything must be on the table to have a good deal with the EU.
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He refused to rule it out does not mean he will definitely fo it. We are scaremongering. Everything must be on the table to have a good deal with the EU.
You have to admit it is getting pretty extreme to propose dumping Parliament in order to pass extra-Parliamentary legislation. This from the faction that is supposedly wanting to leave Europe to enhance Democracy.

What it of course demonstrates (yet again) is that Brexit has little or nothing to do with a democratic deficit and everything to do with pushing extremist capitalism agendas on a duped public.
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Nobody tell FoS about satellites...
Yep, heard of those. I watched Earth from Space, so I'm fully briefed. :teehee:
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You have to admit it is getting pretty extreme to propose dumping Parliament in order to pass extra-Parliamentary legislation. This from the faction that is supposedly wanting to leave Europe to enhance Democracy.

What it of course demonstrates (yet again) is that Brexit has little or nothing to do with a democratic deficit and everything to do with pushing extremist capitalism agendas on a duped public.
I agree with you, but this is a bit extreme. BoJo wont do that. He is campaigning and making promises. I think once he wins, he will calm down and follow due process. It was the same with Madam May, who said “Brexit means Brexit” or “No deal was better than a bad deal”.
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(Original post by Wired_1800)
I agree with you, but this is a bit extreme. BoJo wont do that. He is campaigning and making promises. I think once he wins, he will calm down and follow due process. It was the same with Madam May, who said “Brexit means Brexit” or “No deal was better than a bad deal”.
It's nice to hope, but I don't share your optimism. Boris has come in off the back of ERG support and he will be a willing tool of their nasty hard-right extremist agendas.
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It's nice to hope, but I don't share your optimism. Boris has come in off the back of ERG support and he will be a willing tool of their nasty hard-right extremist agendas.
I don't agree, but we never know. I think Boris is a clever man. He will play both sides until he gets what he wants. Don't underestimate him.
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I don't agree, but we never know. I think Boris is a clever man. He will play both sides until he gets what he wants. Don't underestimate him.
Well I hope you're right. In London he played a crony capitalist role, pandering to offshore interests and the super-rich.
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Well I hope you're right. In London he played a crony capitalist role, pandering to offshore interests and the super-rich.
Exactly. It is classic BoJo. Play both sides
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I don't agree, but we never know. I think Boris is a clever man. He will play both sides until he gets what he wants. Don't underestimate him.
That is not so much clever as opportunistic.
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That is not so much clever as opportunistic.
I think you have to be a bit clever to be a successful opportunist. It takes ability to engage and confidence opposing groups to support and believe you and follow the same agenda.
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Today we hear that the Met are going to use drones to monitor drivers in London, particularly those engaged in racing or other dangerous activities.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tor-road-users

They will have night vision and be used to inform officers on the ground of incidents.

Arguably this is a good thing (and anything that causes people to stop driving in London, or takes cars away from people, is a good thing), but it makes one wonder how far drone-based surveillance is going to go.

I suspect before long there will be permanent drones in the sky over all cities and towns, routinely logging movements, spying on social interactions (for research purposes of course) and monitoring political activity.

They will be an absolute gift to the sort of neo-fascist governments we are now inexorably heading for in post-Brexit Britain, under permanent Hard Right rule once the ERG take power under Johnson and Scotland and then probably Wales quit the UK and we are permanently rendered a financialised offshore freeport for tax evaders and international criminals.
Oh come now, most of this mass-surveillance **** first kicked off under Blair's governance, and in this particular instance under Sadiq Khan's rule, both hardcore remainers. It's your guys who are doing this kind of stuff, don't try to spin the blame towards leavers.
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I think you have to be a bit clever to be a successful opportunist. It takes ability to engage and confidence opposing groups to support and believe you and follow the same agenda.
Not really. It's possible to be successful without being clever. I think our poltical system selects for idoits to be honest. Whether said idoit is being an idoit on purpose is beside the point, being an idoit actually helps one's career. In this case it may well guarantee his place as PM but it could set himself up for abject failure later on. I do not know why the Brexit hard right trusts a man who flip flops and cares about his personal ambitions more than any ideology. He is a perfect candidate to talk tough on No Deal and the gawp at the prospect when it would no longer suit him, ie when he is surrounding by advisers telling him how much of a disastor it would be. Poeple like him should get weeded out, not sent to the top.

But none of this is Boris's fault. You are always going to get cyincs who just want to game a system for their own ends. The problem is that doing so in our current system produces bad outcomes, not good ones (like the right wing case for markets).
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Not really. It's possible to be successful without being clever. I think our poltical system selects for idoits to be honest. Whether said idoit is being an idoit on purpose is beside the point. In this case it may well guarantee his place as PM but it could set himself up for abject failure later on. I do not know why the Brexit hard right trusts a man who flip flops and cares about his personal ambitions more than any ideology. He is a perfect candidate to talk tough on No Deal and the gawp at the prospect when it would no longer suit him, ie when he is surrounding by advisers telling him how much of a disastor it would be.

Just saying anything, often contradictory from what you said the day before to another group, is not the sign of a healthy poltical system regardless of whether or not said method is good for BJ's career. Poeple like him should get weeded out, not sent to the top.
You have made fair points. However, politicians have to lie. It takes a bit of skill to say two things to two groups and get them to share one vision IMO.

If a politician came to you and said truthfully that they had no clue how to improve the health, wealth or well-being of the nation, nobody will vote for them. No politician knows how to do anything. What does a former Classics student know about the inner workings of the British Economy? They just try to give hope and encourage people to do what they can, which combines to have a cumulative effect on the nation. That is what great leaders have done.

For example, many people praise the Labour Party for not allowing the UK to join the Euro, which has caused many issues for European countries in the Eurozone. However, they still attack the same Labour Party (Gordon Brown) for allowing the Great Recession in 2008, when it was Thatcher that started the deregulation of the banking system in the 80s.

I think the people who believe in politicians are the real idiots. If you have no common sense to take what they are saying with healthy skepticism, then you have yourself to blame.

I heard a story where they asked someone whether they will vote for Boris Johnson and they said Yes. Then asked whether he would buy something from him or leave their wife alone with him; the person said No. It was astonishing that you wont trust a man with your wife but can trust him with the nation.
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Well itll make excellent target practice for the 12G if nothing else.
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