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Libel is a thing, ya know.
the whole internet is saying it though
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It's sounding from the latest revalations as though Epstein actually kept girls prisoner on his island. It's getting really hard to understand why there haven't been more arrests in this case. Numerous well known figures are implicated. One of them is a hedge fund boss who apparently supplied girls to Epstein.

Very strange that the indictment was limited to him and he is now dead.
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It's sounding from the latest revalations as though Epstein actually kept girls prisoner on his island. It's getting really hard to understand why there haven't been more arrests in this case. Numerous well known figures are implicated. One of them is a hedge fund boss who apparently supplied girls to Epstein.

Very strange that the indictment was limited to him and he is now dead.
Another man accused is the Queen's son, which CNN have as a headline, but i understand why BBC wouldn't.
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It's sounding from the latest revalations as though Epstein actually kept girls prisoner on his island. It's getting really hard to understand why there haven't been more arrests in this case. Numerous well known figures are implicated. One of them is a hedge fund boss who apparently supplied girls to Epstein.

Very strange that the indictment was limited to him and he is now dead.
He must have known he was going to get killed before he could testify.

The only reason not to record a confession to everything, indicting the high profile people and hand it to an anonymous third party, is that they have threatened to murder his family/friends or something similar.
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Another man accused is the Queen's son, which CNN have as a headline, but i understand why BBC wouldn't.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49305967

It does become a bit farcical. Prince Andrew, a Harvard law prof, a former PM. We should, as ever, presume innocence.

By the way, here is the link to the 2015 decision that dismissed many of the claims Giuffre made in her 2015 defamation suit. Mainly in that they contradicted statements she had made in 2011 that she never had sex with Prince Andrew and she had been encouraged by a journalist to get "big names" to secure a profitable book deal in the succeeding years. Then these rather grand claims came out (which contradicted explicit statements made to the contrary from a few years earlier). Namely about Prince Andrew and Prof Dershowitz.

The journalist seemingly giving her the Prof's name as the journo suspected the Prof of being a pedo and suggested that Giuffre had probably met him at some point as he was a friend of Epstein's.
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It's sounding from the latest revalations as though Epstein actually kept girls prisoner on his island. It's getting really hard to understand why there haven't been more arrests in this case. Numerous well known figures are implicated. One of them is a hedge fund boss who apparently supplied girls to Epstein.

Very strange that the indictment was limited to him and he is now dead.
it's connected to clinton's trafficking in haiti

connected to pizzagate

connected to NXIVM

so quite a big story to uncover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puq7SXrcf9I
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(Original post by Notoriety)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49305967

It does become a bit farcical. Prince Andrew, a Harvard law prof, a former PM. We should, as ever, presume innocence.

By the way, here is the link to the 2015 decision that dismissed many of the claims Giuffre made in her 2015 defamation suit. Mainly in that they contradicted statements she had made in 2011 that she never had sex with Prince Andrew and she had been encouraged by a journalist to get "big names" to secure a profitable book deal in the succeeding years. Then these rather grand claims came out (which contradicted explicit statements made to the contrary from a few years earlier). Namely about Prince Andrew and Prof Dershowitz.

The journalist seemingly giving her the Prof's name as the journo suspected the Prof of being a pedo and suggested that Giuffre had probably met him at some point as he was a friend of Epstein's.
she's an irrelevance, a distraction.

Focus on the hundreds of trafficked girls that went missing and who was supplying them
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she's an irrelevance, a distraction.

Focus on the hundreds of trafficked girls that went missing and who was supplying them
Now I see what you meant by the "whole internet". The forums of people in tinfoil hats talking about pizzagate.
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Now I see what you meant by the "whole internet". The forums of people in tinfoil hats talking about pizzagate.
Suicided or suicide it won't matter. It's only important to people like us. The normies will say 'Jeffrey who?'. Which is the whole point. They wanted to stop salacious stories coming out because normies want that and pay attention, it might just wake them up and start to question what's going on. Sex sells. They know because they use it. To us this is shocking because we suspected this was in the pipeline. To the average guy. No.

I do offer one ray of hope. Epstein knew the game he was playing. He must have known about the Clinton body count. He must have known the people he was dealing with were the most ruthless on the planet and will kill and murder without batting an eye. He may have left a dead mans switch. Perhaps he may have had some sort of honour and has left evidence to help Maxwell. For the same reason he may still be alive.
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Suicided or suicide it won't matter. It's only important to people like us. The normies will say 'Jeffrey who?'. Which is the whole point. They wanted to stop salacious stories coming out because normies want that and pay attention, it might just wake them up and start to question what's going on. Sex sells. They know because they use it. To us this is shocking because we suspected this was in the pipeline. To the average guy. No.

I do offer one ray of hope. Epstein knew the game he was playing. He must have known about the Clinton body count. He must have known the people he was dealing with were the most ruthless on the planet and will kill and murder without batting an eye. He may have left a dead mans switch. Perhaps he may have had some sort of honour and has left evidence to help Maxwell. For the same reason he may still be alive.
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(Original post by Notoriety)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49305967

It does become a bit farcical. Prince Andrew, a Harvard law prof, a former PM. We should, as ever, presume innocence.

By the way, here is the link to the 2015 decision that dismissed many of the claims Giuffre made in her 2015 defamation suit. Mainly in that they contradicted statements she had made in 2011 that she never had sex with Prince Andrew and she had been encouraged by a journalist to get "big names" to secure a profitable book deal in the succeeding years. Then these rather grand claims came out (which contradicted explicit statements made to the contrary from a few years earlier). Namely about Prince Andrew and Prof Dershowitz.

The journalist seemingly giving her the Prof's name as the journo suspected the Prof of being a pedo and suggested that Giuffre had probably met him at some point as he was a friend of Epstein's.
Her lawyers are currently suing Dershowitz for defamation, so it will be interesting to see how that develops. If AD settles, as I suspect he will, it will be pretty damning.

She also isn't the only woman making similar allegations.
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(Original post by Notoriety)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49305967

It does become a bit farcical. Prince Andrew, a Harvard law prof, a former PM. We should, as ever, presume innocence.

By the way, here is the link to the 2015 decision that dismissed many of the claims Giuffre made in her 2015 defamation suit. Mainly in that they contradicted statements she had made in 2011 that she never had sex with Prince Andrew and she had been encouraged by a journalist to get "big names" to secure a profitable book deal in the succeeding years. Then these rather grand claims came out (which contradicted explicit statements made to the contrary from a few years earlier). Namely about Prince Andrew and Prof Dershowitz.

The journalist seemingly giving her the Prof's name as the journo suspected the Prof of being a pedo and suggested that Giuffre had probably met him at some point as he was a friend of Epstein's.
even conspiracy theorists on the internet think she is full of ****

Look at the bigger picture. Stop focusing on one girl who made some wild accusations.
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Her lawyers are currently suing Dershowitz for defamation, so it will be interesting to see how that develops. If AD settles, as I suspect he will, it will be pretty damning.

She also isn't the only woman making similar allegations.
He is 80. I doubt he is very much interested in how much he will leave his grandchildren. I'd think he'd want this to go to trial for an opportunity to defend himself and counterclaim himself for defamation. A district court judge said the allegations she made against him were obviously untrue, so maybe he will be confident another judge would agree.
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There's further evidence that one of the young girls, Virginia Roberts, alleging she was pressured to have sex with Epstein's guests is telling the truth - she has stated that she met (amongst others) Prince Andrew and Naomi Campbell at a party, Photos now on the DM site show this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...P-parties.html

The attitudes in the photos indicate that it was not a new thing for them to see very young girls at Epstein parties.

There does need to be a proper police investigation in this country into the activities of both Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's ex-lover and apparent procurer and Prince Andrew.

Astonishingly, despite living off stolen millions that her father purloined from the Daily Mirror pension fund, Maxwell was also partying with Princess Margaret, Princess Anne and Epstein at Windsor Castle! Apparently our royals think little of British pensioners and much of those who prosper by stealing from them.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-prince-andrew
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There's further evidence that one of the young girls, Virginia Roberts, alleging she was pressured to have sex with Epstein's guests is telling the truth - she has stated that she met (amongst others) Prince Andrew and Naomi Campbell at a party, Photos now on the DM site show this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...P-parties.html

The attitudes in the photos indicate that it was not a new thing for them to see very young girls at Epstein parties.

There does need to be a proper police investigation in this country into the activities of both Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's ex-lover and apparent procurer and Prince Andrew.

Astonishingly, despite living off stolen millions that her father purloined from the Daily Mirror pension fund, Maxwell was also partying with Princess Margaret, Princess Anne and Epstein at Windsor Castle! Apparently our royals think little of British pensioners and much of those who prosper by stealing from them.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-prince-andrew
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9059266.html

Broken neck bones were discovered on Epstein's body during autopsy
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