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Or victims or s something else
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No. They are victims. If they harm other people then that's the conduct that should be criminalised, not the addiction itself.
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Yes. Not only are they harming themselves but harming others. It’s highly addictive and it makes people wanna do reckless things. THEY ARE CRIMINALS
Do you think labelling addicts as criminals and putting them i jail makes it better or worse for them in terms of stopping drugs? Particularly when they’re released
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Yes. Not only are they harming themselves but harming others. It’s highly addictive and it makes people wanna do reckless things. THEY ARE CRIMINALS
What's the relevance of saying that drugs are "highly addictive" when the thread is about drug addicts...?

Writing in caps doesn't make your terribly reasoned points any more convincing.
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I don’t think drug addicts are criminals. They need help.
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The Portuguese started treating it as a public health issue rather than a criminal issue years ago. i'd quite like to see the stats, but anecdotally crime reduced in some pretty badly affected areas (including a couple where I used to live) when treatment became the norm rather than criminality.
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(Original post by steamed-hams)
Do you think labelling addicts as criminals and putting them i jail makes it better or worse for them in terms of stopping drugs? Particularly when they’re released
no, they definitely need help but i'm talking about the drug dealers that go overboard and use drugs that make them kill people and all of that
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(Original post by Palmyra)
What's the relevance of saying that drugs are "highly addictive" when the thread is about drug addicts...?

Writing in caps doesn't make your terribly reasoned points any more convincing.
Ask me if i care what Palmyra thinks?...
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no, they definitely need help but i'm talking about the drug dealers that go overboard and use drugs that make them kill people and all of that
Which drugs make people kill?

What % of drug addicts kill people?

Why are you using that extremely small % of drug addicts to justify treating drug addicts as a whole as criminals ("THEY ARE CRIMINALS")?
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(Original post by Palmyra)
Which drugs make people kill?

What % of drug addicts kill people?

Why are you using that extremely small % of drug addicts to justify treating drug addicts as a whole as criminals ("THEY ARE CRIMINALS")?
if you wanted to know what drug addicts i'm talking about then you could've just asked nicely. i know drugs make you go crazy and do things that your usual self wouldn't do. makes you aggressive. but really, they just need tons of help.
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They're not criminals, they need help. Addiction can be absolutely devastating, but this is exactly why they need help, to prevent that from happening. Not to get demonised.
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(Original post by CHANELDIAMONDS)
if you wanted to know what drug addicts i'm talking about then you could've just asked nicely. i know drugs make you go crazy and do things that your usual self wouldn't do. makes you aggressive. but really, they just need tons of help.
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You didn't answer my questions.

The point is that hardly any drug addicts kill people thus you are not justified in generalising all drug addicts as murderers.

Clearly, if some drug addicts kill people then they are criminals (homicide), but that's not what the OP asked. To make it simpler for you: should drug addicts who don't commit crimes be treated as criminals or as victims?
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Maybe if there was a better support system in place with regards to mental health they wouldn’t harm themselves. They’re not criminals. The system just failed them.
(Original post by CHANELDIAMONDS)
Yes. Not only are they harming themselves but harming others. It’s highly addictive and it makes people wanna do reckless things. THEY ARE CRIMINALS
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You didn't answer my questions.

The point is that hardly any drug addicts kill people thus you are not justified in generalising all drug addicts as murderers.

Clearly, if some drug addicts kill people then they are criminals (homicide), but that's not what the OP asked. To make it simpler for you: should drug addicts who don't commit crimes be treated as criminals or as victims?
i'm not generalising, for gods sake.

hardly? there are TONS. Maybe not here but in america, there sure are.

no smh. but I'm just talking about the ones that use it to kill. cause like i said, it changes people and a lot of the times, for the worse. they need tons and tons of help but we can't wait until they do something absolutely horrible to arrest them? its illegal for a reason
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Maybe if there was a better support system in place with regards to mental health they wouldn’t harm themselves. They’re not criminals. The system just failed them.
Some people are perfectly fine, they just want to follow the crowd and do drugs. They need help of course. And if they do get arrested, they shouldn't be treated like how murderers do and they shouldn't be put in a prison with those sort of people. First, they will obviously need intense therapy and medication.
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Let's phrase it another way:

Should addicts be treated as criminal drugs?
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what is their crime??

I see them as victims in need of help
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Do you think labelling addicts as criminals and putting them i jail makes it better or worse for them in terms of stopping drugs? Particularly when they’re released
Of course not. Addicts aren't criminals, they haven't broken any laws. Prison is not the place for drug addicts, prisons do not have the resources, staff or healthcare to help addicts and sending those struggling with addiction into prison only perpetuates a stigma that already makes people ashamed to seek help in the first place.
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(Original post by CHANELDIAMONDS)
no, they definitely need help but i'm talking about the drug dealers that go overboard and use drugs that make them kill people and all of that
Drugs dealers =/= drugs addicts
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