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Don't call them socialists, because they're not. I am a socialist. These people are liberals. Please learn the difference.
Oh please, socialism and communism have gotten their dirty little claws into pretty much any green movement, and calling yourself a real socialist isnt anything to be proud of
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Roadblocks do feel like the most weirdly pointless form of the protests. Block a roadway into the number 10 car park or something, not a main road that us plebs have to try and use.
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Oh, but it does!

*Eyes up legislation in several States in the US that protects drivers from legal action if they harm/run over protestors who block the road on a public right of way providing they exercise due care*
Whether it does or not isn't my point; if you believe that big business controls the government what good do you think blocking a few roads and delaying a few tubes is going to do?
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Whether it does or not isn't my point; if you believe that big business controls the government what good do you think blocking a few roads and delaying a few tubes is going to do?
Clearly they are trying different tactics, but so far they have at minimum gained huge publicity for the cause and raised it to a number one issue in national debate. Not bad for a new protest movement.
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Roadblocks do feel like the most weirdly pointless form of the protests. Block a roadway into the number 10 car park or something, not a main road that us plebs have to try and use.
You know perfectly well that no 10 is heavily guarded by armed police, it is also hard to blockade as few vehicles are passing through the gates. They have already focused heavily on the area around Parliament.
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Clearly they are trying different tactics, but so far they have at minimum gained huge publicity for the cause and raised it to a number one issue in national debate. Not bad for a new protest movement.
They’ve gained publicity but it seems like most people oppose them. It’s hardly the number one thing going on, several other current events are getting far more runtime in the media.

I would suggest these children stop throwing their toys out of the pram and learn that we live in a democratic country
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They’ve gained publicity but it seems like most people oppose them. It’s hardly the number one thing going on, several other current events are getting far more runtime in the media.

I would suggest these children stop throwing their toys out of the pram and learn that we live in a democratic country
They get large support figures in poll after poll. Most people under 35 support what they are doing.

The coverage is bound to go up and down, but to get the issue raised as well as they have is a signal achievement, which is precisely why the right wing media are focusing so much energy on trying to undermine them.
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They get large support figures in poll after poll. Most people under 35 support what they are doing.
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The coverage is bound to go up and down, but to get the issue raised as well as they have is a signal achievement, which is precisely why the right wing media are focusing so much energy on trying to undermine them.
What are these efforts to undermine them?

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it is really a smokescreen for Remain. the Rebellioners are articulate middle class strivers; exactly the demographic who were cruelly traduced by Call Me Dave and his wretched Referendumb.
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Whether it does or not isn't my point; if you believe that big business controls the government what good do you think blocking a few roads and delaying a few tubes is going to do?
The joke flew so far over your head that it may well have left the observable universe...
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Your argument makes no sense. The developed world including the UK are overwhelmingly the greatest source of CO2 emissions.
CO2 emissions are only one part of the picture. Other environmental catastrophes such as deforestation, soil errosion, desertification, plastic pollution, have become more prevalent problems in the third world as their populations have exploded. 90% of the plastic in the oceans comes from just 10 rivers, 8 of them in Asia and 2 in Africa.

Consider also how mass-migration from the third world into developed countries has been artificially driving up population levels in the West (which would have naturally started to level off and gradually fall to more sustainable levels if left alone), further compounding our own environmental issues (though I would not blame that on the third world per say, our own governments are the ones who have allowed the situation to occur).
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They block the roads = more emissions due to the route changes
They piss everyone off with the loud ruckus = more police, more vehicles, more emissions
They create more banners and signs = more plastic waste
Extinction rebellion? = bunch of *****
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They block the roads = more emissions due to the route changes
They piss everyone off with the loud ruckus = more police, more vehicles, more emissions
They create more banners and signs = more plastic waste
Extinction rebellion? = bunch of *****
That's called a protest.How else would you suggest protesting? They tried gatecrashing a government party and all the deniers on here complained.

What's really criminal is government inaction on this issue.They are knowingly creating a really crappy world for the next generation to live in.
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Ok, I am coming in with my opinion.

People who block roads are scum and it should be totally legal to run them over. What kind of narcissistic **** thinks it's OK to inconvenience thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands, of other people just because you want to organise some silly little protest?

Annoying people by denying them use of infrastructure they've paid for out of their own tax money, is a very quick way to get people to write off your entire movement. If you want to get the government to listen to you, don't go and annoy your fellow citizen. Go stand outside of parliament or something. British roads are bad enough without morons stood in the middle of them.
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Ok, I am coming in with my opinion.

People who block roads are scum and it should be totally legal to run them over. What kind of narcissistic **** thinks it's OK to inconvenience thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands, of other people just because you want to organise some silly little protest?

Annoying people by denying them use of infrastructure they've paid for out of their own tax money, is a very quick way to get people to write off your entire movement. If you want to get the government to listen to you, don't go and annoy your fellow citizen. Go stand outside of parliament or something. British roads are bad enough without morons stood in the middle of them.
Blocking a highway is an offence - don't see why the cops couldn't start to arrest these people and the binmen couldn't dismantle their barricades.

Middle class direct action fizzles when the cops use their powers and start acting like killjoys... see 1990s road protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbury_bypass
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Blocking a highway is an offence - don't see why the cops couldn't start to arrest these people and the binmen couldn't dismantle their barricades.

Middle class direct action fizzles when the cops use their powers and start acting like killjoys... see 1990s road protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbury_bypass
Oh no a few roads were blocked.I'd love to know what those complaining are going to do when those same roads are getting flooded.When the Thames barrier was constructed it was only meant to be used once or twice a year.Now it's been used 7 or 8 times a year due to climate change.I'm sure the economy is going to thrive when major cities like London and New York and shanghai and venice are under the sea.
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Oh no a few roads were blocked.I'd love to know what those complaining are going to do when those same roads are getting flooded.When the Thames barrier was constructed it was only meant to be used once or twice a year.Now it's been used 7 or 8 times a year due to climate change.I'm sure the economy is going to thrive when major cities like London and New York and shanghai and venice are under the sea.
Same group was blocking railways earlier this year IIRC... making it hard for normies to understand what they've got a problem with cos it's clearly not related to CO2 emissions per passenger mile otherwise they'd always be blocking the airports.



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Same group was blocking railways earlier this year IIRC... making it hard for normies to understand what they've got a problem with cos it's clearly not related to CO2 emissions per passenger mile otherwise they'd always be blocking the airports.



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ER started with airports. The response of the authorities was much more threatening about blockading airports and the City than it has been in relation to London roads, etc.

Actually by far the biggest reaction so far to ER's activities was when they blockaded Docklands station. The right wing newspapers went into full hysteria mode at how easy it was to shut down the banking casinos.
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Middle class direct action fizzles when the cops use their powers and start acting like killjoys... see 1990s road protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbury_bypass
Same is true of Antifa when the police actually enforce the law.
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You know perfectly well that no 10 is heavily guarded by armed police, it is also hard to blockade as few vehicles are passing through the gates. They have already focused heavily on the area around Parliament.
mmm probably a bad example, just main motorways feels like a bit of a weird one.
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