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With the government wanting to slowly phase out Manual cars over the next couple of decades, is it worth learning at all?
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YES ofcourse if you get a manual license you can drive both manual and automatic , anywhere in the world that you go! But if you just get automatic license you're not allowed to drive a manual so better to get 2 in 1
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I’m actually just getting an automatic license (I think). I kinda failed learning on a manual (I have dyspraxia) so it looks like I have a better chance with an automatic. Whenever I get a car it’ll just have to be an automatic, it’s not really a big deal
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it's defo worth it if you're thinking abt sports cars and high-end cars in the near future but some manufacturers in those ranges (such as Porsche, Ferrari) are slowly getting rid of it too
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Im thinking Automatic...I mean Manuals but as the years being phased out anyway and I would only have to worry if I needed to drive someone else's car and it wasn't automatic but as the years roll by, Manual will go down and Automatic and Electric will be on the rise
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I got an automatic licence. No regrets :auto:
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(Original post by Mrx123)
Im thinking Automatic...I mean Manuals but as the years being phased out anyway and I would only have to worry if I needed to drive someone else's car and it wasn't automatic but as the years roll by, Manual will go down and Automatic and Electric will be on the rise
you still get manual EV's... but you are right there not very common. Also EV's still use transmissions.

The main benefit of manual, is their safer. Not physical safety features but the stats show as manuals are more engaging, driver error is much lower in manuals rather than automatics.
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It's best to learn in a manual as you can then drive any car. If you're really struggling then just switch to auto.

After passing my test I never had any intention of buying a manual car as automatics are much easier on roundabouts.
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it just seems pointless if in 20 yrs or so, more automatics will be on the road than Manuals
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you still get manual EV's... but you are right there not very common. Also EV's still use transmissions.

The main benefit of manual, is their safer. Not physical safety features but the stats show as manuals are more engaging, driver error is much lower in manuals rather than automatics.
Do you have a link to these stats?
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Do you have a link to these stats?
Not off hand, but im sure if you get on sciencedirect you can find them.

But in average drivers manuals reduced driver error, and once people reach pension age automatics reduced error (I ran with the assumption OP is not approaching 65)
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I have a manual licence but I now drive automatic cars. It’s a childish attitude that a lot of manual drivers have that automatic cars are easier and therefore “beneath” them. But it’s so nice not having to change gears and it makes the driving experience more enjoyable.

Also it’s 2019 so why manual cars still exist is beyond me. Theres no need to control the gears yourself unless you’re in a race. Plus modern automatics can change gears faster than humans can.
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I'll be honest, I have mild Autism and can sometimes overthink things...I mean if I keep practicing I could get the manual down I guess but it might just be easier to do Automatic to reduce stress when driving
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Not off hand, but im sure if you get on sciencedirect you can find them.

But in average drivers manuals reduced driver error, and once people reach pension age automatics reduced error (I ran with the assumption OP is not approaching 65)
I had a look and couldn’t find them which is why I asked. Its definitely possible that manual drivers are safer (might not be because of the car though) but I’d like to see the stats before believing it.
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I had a look and couldn’t find them which is why I asked. Its definitely possible that manual drivers are safer (might not be because of the car though) but I’d like to see the stats before believing it.
Did a quick search and found a paper (although it is more specific to drivers with ADHD)
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs...87054706288103

I do think the reality is however manuals are being fazed out, more because of fuel economy than anything else, they generally are slightly more efficient and manufacturers are being pushed to find increasingly smaller gains.
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it's like when Steam Trains used to be all the range on the railways then along came Diesels which were easier to drive
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it's like when Steam Trains used to be all the range on the railways then along came Diesels which were easier to drive
*all the rage.

Also, I don't think making trains easier to drive was the main priority, it was more about coal being more difficult to get hold of and having dangerous emissions, whereas diesel is slightly better. All trains will be electric before long.

Regarding the auto thing. I have an anxiety disorder, and had convinced myself I would never be able to drive as I couldn't get everything done at the same time with the gears and observations etc. Taking away the gears was a game changer for me. I passed 4 years ago and have never needed to drive a manual car. The times when you would need to do so are so few and far between that it just isn't worth struggling to pass your test because of it.
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(Original post by Mrx123)
With the government wanting to slowly phase out Manual cars over the next couple of decades, is it worth learning at all?
You might find this interesting, OP.

If you're really struggling with a manual, don't be ashamed to try out an automatic.
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it just seems pointless if in 20 yrs or so, more automatics will be on the road than Manuals
20 years is a long time. You'll be able to drive automatics on your manual licence either way and in the meantime you'll still be able to drive manuals. If you really want to just do an automatic licence then there's no need to find reasons that aren't really reasons mate, just do it if you want to. FWIW, I got a manual licence and first 2 cars were manuals, then last car I decided to go automatic and I never want to drive manual again now :lol: Auto's are so convenient in a trafficky area like mine.
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(Original post by It's****ingWOODY)
20 years is a long time. You'll be able to drive automatics on your manual licence either way and in the meantime you'll still be able to drive manuals. If you really want to just do an automatic licence then there's no need to find reasons that aren't really reasons mate, just do it if you want to. FWIW, I got a manual licence and first 2 cars were manuals, then last car I decided to go automatic and I never want to drive manual again now :lol: Auto's are so convenient in a trafficky area like mine.
you know...you make a good point!
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