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Hi, I'm just wondering exactly how traditional Oxbridge medicine courses are. Do they have very strict pre-clinical and clinical phases? Is one more integrated than the other?

At the moment, integrated and PBL courses appeal a bit more to me because I want early patient contact and the chance to learn in a new way. I'm currently looking at Barts, Glasgow, Bristol and Hull York/Birmingham.

Also, did anyone here get in without studying maths A Level?
According to the statistics on their websites, it seems like they favour maths (and even further maths) A LOT, so I'm unsure whether it's even worth considering applying there.

I study chem, bio, English and history btw. (Predicted A*A*A*A respectively).

Thanks in advance
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Only 3% of people in the last three admissions rounds applied to Cambridge with only two sciences/maths. Of those only 3% got an offer (Vs 29% of those applying with 3 sciences/maths). I would probably avoid Cambridge on that basis...
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yeah....dont apply to oxbridge for medicine. you have 3 years without seeing patients at all (more or less). oxbridge medicine is great, I love it, but if you want to see patients then it is 100% not for you. they have the most traditional pre clinical/clinical split in the country.

also applying to Cambridge medicine without 3 maths/science a levels is just not a good idea....its possible to get in, but the odds are not good.
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Please see my son's account of what the Oxford medical course is actually like and why he loves it so much

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=6044384

To find out which subjects you need, look at the Oxford University medicine web page

http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/under...sting/medicine

Requirement is chemistry with at least one other science.

Yes, Oxford medicine means not going onto the wards until you have done your first degree. However by the time you get into hospital, you will have a solid theoretical knowledge to refer to.

I even heard of someone getting into Brasenose medicine with French A level (but obviously with the science A Levels

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Hi, I'm just wondering exactly how traditional Oxbridge medicine courses are. Do they have very strict pre-clinical and clinical phases? Is one more integrated than the other?

At the moment, integrated and PBL courses appeal a bit more to me because I want early patient contact and the chance to learn in a new way. I'm currently looking at Barts, Glasgow, Bristol and Hull York/Birmingham.

Also, did anyone here get in without studying maths A Level?
According to the statistics on their websites, it seems like they favour maths (and even further maths) A LOT, so I'm unsure whether it's even worth considering applying there.

I study chem, bio, English and history btw. (Predicted A*A*A*A respectively).

Thanks in advance
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(Original post by Murrinn123)
Hi, I'm just wondering exactly how traditional Oxbridge medicine courses are. Do they have very strict pre-clinical and clinical phases? Is one more integrated than the other?
Yes it is very strict. I think at both the only clinical contact in the first two years will be 5 afternoon sessions - the minimum the GMC mandates they have.



At the moment, integrated and PBL courses appeal a bit more to me because I want early patient contact and the chance to learn in a new way.
You'll be at uni for 5/6 years with learning being by far your biggest comittment, so that's pretty important.

Also, did anyone here get in without studying maths A Level?
According to the statistics on their websites, it seems like they favour maths (and even further maths) A LOT, so I'm unsure whether it's even worth considering applying there.
Sounds like you've seen the stats from the universities themselves, so why would you be asking for anecdotes from randoms on the internet?!

Cambridge medicine chance of success with 2 sciences is 3% vs 29% for those with 3 https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....urses/medicine

Oxford medicine chance of success with 2 sciences was around 6% vs 10% for those with 3 sciences. https://www.medsci.ox.ac.uk/study/me...cal/statistics

For Oxford, those with maths had a 30% chance of being interviewed, compared to 19% for those without maths. https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho...3#post69834306

One the BMAT, people who take maths score on average 10% higher than those who do not take maths. It is unclear if this difference is because they take maths, or because that group is just better prepared to begin with. https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=6035254
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(Original post by Paralove)
Only 3% of people in the last three admissions rounds applied to Cambridge with only two sciences/maths. Of those only 3% got an offer (Vs 29% of those applying with 3 sciences/maths). I would probably avoid Cambridge on that basis...
Yeah, I saw those statistics on their website and I was shook. I 100% agree.

(Original post by meme259)
yeah....dont apply to oxbridge for medicine. you have 3 years without seeing patients at all (more or less). oxbridge medicine is great, I love it, but if you want to see patients then it is 100% not for you. they have the most traditional pre clinical/clinical split in the country.

also applying to Cambridge medicine without 3 maths/science a levels is just not a good idea....its possible to get in, but the odds are not good.
That's what I thought! My friends were trying to convince me to apply because I'm supposedly "smart enough", but deep down I knew it wasn't really for me. Thanks for the help!

(Original post by Oxford Mum)
Please see my son's account of what the Oxford medical course is actually like and why he loves it so much

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=6044384

To find out which subjects you need, look at the Oxford University medicine web page

http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/under...sting/medicine

Requirement is chemistry with at least one other science.

Yes, Oxford medicine means not going onto the wards until you have done your first degree. However by the time you get into hospital, you will have a solid theoretical knowledge to refer to.

I even heard of someone getting into Brasenose medicine with French A level (but obviously with the science A Levels

Original post by Murrinn123)
I'm glad that your son really likes it there! At this point, I don't think it's for me because patient interaction is one of the main reasons why I want to study medicine. If I wanted to do pure science, I'd be applying for biomed or biochemistry. Thanks for the input though! x

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Yes it is very strict. I think at both the only clinical contact in the first two years will be 5 afternoon sessions - the minimum the GMC mandates they have.





You'll be at uni for 5/6 years with learning being by far your biggest comittment, so that's pretty important.



Sounds like you've seen the stats from the universities themselves, so why would you be asking for anecdotes from randoms on the internet?!

Cambridge medicine chance of success with 2 sciences is 3% vs 29% for those with 3 https://www.undergraduate.study.cam....urses/medicine

Oxford medicine chance of success with 2 sciences was around 6% vs 10% for those with 3 sciences. https://www.medsci.ox.ac.uk/study/me...cal/statistics

For Oxford, those with maths had a 30% chance of being interviewed, compared to 19% for those without maths. https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho...3#post69834306

One the BMAT, people who take maths score on average 10% higher than those who do not take maths. It is unclear if this difference is because they take maths, or because that group is just better prepared to begin with. https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=6035254
Eeeeeeek, yeah I don't think Oxbridge medicine would be a good idea for me.
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