Woman wearing a niqab gets angry at gay pride

But how do you define "Islamophobia"? Prejudice against Muslims on religious grounds? Racism? Criticism of Islamic ideology?

An outsider would look at Judaism and conclude that all Jews are homophobic. I think this is similar to Islam. There are different parts and they range from the ultra-traditionalists to the liberal minds.

Have they? Or have they criticised Islam and criticised Moslems who are homophobic and, in particular, criticised the woman under discussion who appears to have engaged in homophobic harrassment.

@Wired_1800 seems to believe that all Muslims are the same and believe the same thing, so if you criticise the behaviour of one individual, you criticise them all.

You might, but any rational person would only assume that Judaism is homophobic, but as Jews are all individuals and don't all follow Judaism to the same extent, some will be and some won't. I am baffled as to why you are having trouble understanding this simple concept.


Who has "attacked all Muslims" as homophobic. It is "Islam" that is homophobic. Many Muslims are better than their religion. However, it does raise the question that if a Muslim considers their own personal morality to be superior to Allah's, then why are they Muslim at all? (The answer is culturally acquired belief, of course)

Muslims are attacked in public and there is an anti-Islam sentiment on TSR.

What is wrong with that? Rational and educated people should criticise all superstitous nonsense.

@Wired_1800 seems to believe that criticising superstitious nonsense is the same as violent racist attacks.

Two entirely different things, one acceptable and one not.
Of course, you are going to say that one inevitably causes the other, but you would be wrong.
Muslims are attacked by right-wing idiots because they are Brown Foreigners, not because the thugs have heard the argument that the concept of Qadr negates free-will, or that Muhammad cannot be some perfect moral exemplar because he executed prisoners and had sex with a child.
Take this thread. Do you seriously believe that the EDL are a bastion of LGBT rights and attack Muslims because of Islam's homophobia? They are just as likely to be homophobes themselves!

Everything is blamed on Islam. You see random guy walking down the street and he does something silly, the media backlash is “Muslim thug does so and so”. Why mention his religion? His religion did not make him to commit such offences.

1) War in Islam is only permitted if the other side strikes first and if there is no other way of resolving the troubles.

You're just making stuff up now. The MSM tends to generally portray Islam and Muslims favourably.
However, if you are correct I'm sure you'll be able to produce articles where a Muslim's religion has been highlighted when it had no relevance to the story.

When attack Islam, you attack Muslims, when you attack Judaism, you attack Jews. It is very simple.

You also have to understand that everyone has prejudices obtained from local socialisation. For example, a christian in Durham will be different than a christian in Texas. They are not all the same.

How do you know all the info you read up on is true? What if it was purposefully twisted or written in such a manner to make you falsely hate such a peaceful religion..

To me, it is the irrational fear of Islam and its followers.

To me, it is the irrational fear of Islam and its followers.

So those reasonably who criticise Islamic ideology on the basis of the contents of the Quran and sunnah are not Islamophobes?
Glad we cleared that up. However, the OED has a different definition. Things can often get confusing when people unilaterally redefine words to suit their own agenda.

What do you call rational fear / dislike of Islam? That's what often gets classed as Islamaphobia.

That is the opposite of what I have been saying.

it's like going around in circles with you. Islam and Muslims are two separate things! one is a group of people, the other is a belief system. criticising Islamic teachings does not equate to criticising Muslims.

under your logic, would this Muslim lady's verbal 'attack' on a lgbt member (who has the rights and freedoms to be gay/lesbian in this country) be an attack on British democracy?

When attack Islam, you attack Muslims, when you attack Judaism, you attack Jews. It is very simple.