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Hi ive sat the N5 exam for English in May however I achieved a C does anyone know if it is still possible to do Higher English even though I got a C at N5 Level.Thanks
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Hi ive sat the N5 exam for English in May however I achieved a C does anyone know if it is still possible to do Higher English even though I got a C at N5 Level.Thanks
Yes however it's up to your school so ask them. My school didn't allow pupils to take subjects onto Higher unless they achieved a B or above or in some rare circumstances a very high C (1% away from a B).
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Hi ive sat the N5 exam for English in May however I achieved a C does anyone know if it is still possible to do Higher English even though I got a C at N5 Level.Thanks
I wouldn't recommend doing Higher English if you've received a C at National 5. It's a very big step up and you might struggle a lot with the course. I know a lot of people who got an A at Nat 5 only to scrape Ds or Cs at Higher.
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Hi ive sat the N5 exam for English in May however I achieved a C does anyone know if it is still possible to do Higher English even though I got a C at N5 Level.Thanks
As long as you pass a National 5 exam, you are able to take it into Higher.

But like Quick-use said, you might struggle with the coursework.
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Thanks for your feedback
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As long as you pass a National 5 exam, you are able to take it into Higher.
Technically, speaking - even if they failed it or they didn't take Nat 5, they could still do Higher.

It's ultimately up to the school whether or not they would allow the student to do Higher. In other words, even if someone passes Nat 5, they might not be able to proceed to the next level.
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I guess it's a resit I kinda doubt myself doing Higher this year as I did fail the prelim back in January.
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I guess it's a resit I kinda doubt myself doing Higher this year as I did fail the prelim back in January.
Did you resit Nat 5 this year?
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No am going into 5th year.
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No am going into 5th year.
In that case, I'd encourage you to resit Nat 5 English. I think you'll find it much better this time around and hopefully come out with very good marks. In sixth year, you can try for Higher.

What were your other grades? What subjects are you taking in fifth year? Do you know what you might potentially want to do after high school? :fluffy:
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Technically, speaking - even if they failed it or they didn't take Nat 5, they could still do Higher.

It's ultimately up to the school whether or not they would allow the student to do Higher. In other words, even if someone passes Nat 5, they might not be able to proceed to the next level.
True, but it wouldn't make sense to take a subject at Higher if you failed it at the level below, unless you were very dedicated and wanted to try your best this year.
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True, but it wouldn't make sense to take a subject at Higher if you failed it at the level below, unless you were very dedicated and wanted to try your best this year.
I suppose there's always context to everything. :fluffy:
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Thanks and these are the subject am doing in s5: H geography,N5 chemistry,biology,maths and probably the same with English. I got a B in geo , B in Pe and c in English the reat were n4 level. I want to do something within science after school.
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Thanks and these are the subject am doing in s5: H geography,N5 chemistry,biology,maths and probably the same with English. I got a B in geo , B in Pe and c in English the reat were n4 level. I want to do something within science after school.
That sounds like a great plan for 5th year. I'm sure you'll do really well. Feel free to update us on here anytime!
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I wouldn't recommend doing Higher English if you've received a C at National 5. It's a very big step up and you might struggle a lot with the course. I know a lot of people who got an A at Nat 5 only to scrape Ds or Cs at Higher.
Exactly me. I got an A at N5, but just got a D in Higher. It's a MASSIVE step up from N5 -> Higher
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It's ultimately at your school's discretion. One way to evaluate if taking the Higher is sensible is to take a look at the breakdown of your mark when you return to school - you should be able to receive this from either your N5 teacher or the head of department/year. They have to tell you all of the information they have on you (other than your exam script) in line with GDPR regulation and, if not, you can submit a subject access request through the SQA. This latter step is very unlikely and hopefully, your school will be very cooperative.

One reason why people often get lower marks in English is the close reading paper. If you look at the mean component marks - this is almost always 15/30 or less. I've known people that have gotten a C because of their close reading in either N5 or Higher first time around and then really brought their mark up by drilling close reading.

Another place where people commonly lose marks is the folio. This is a place you can really try and pick marks up for either your resit N5 or Higher if you decide to take it. Writing various drafts and getting it checked can really bring your mark up.

If your mark is generally C level across the board - I would agree with some of the earlier posters - it may make sense to resit the N5 and take Higher in S6 as it is quite a step up. If it is one or two areas that are specifically challenging, though, you could take the Higher and really focus on these areas.

Feel free to ask anything you want about Higher English btw
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Is n5 course really similar to higher.
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Is n5 course really similar to higher.
My class, personally, are doing the same 6 poems and doing hamlet this year instead of Macbeth. The close reading will be unpredictable in the exam.

The structure will be the same, but the content is harder. You, for one, no longer get marks for quoting.
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I have achieved a C in nat 5 english sadly. Again it’s up to school, my english teacher said that if you get a C then you do higher over two years and resit nat 5 english (weird deal but that’s what she said). Higher for two years could also work.



Edit: for me it’s a very big problem: english is not my first language so there are quite a lot of words in close reading that I don’t understand or can’t translate into my own words so I think close reading let me really down.
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