# is A level maths/ further maths just a matter of memorising random equations Watch

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ok, i kinda enjoy maths, however, i hate just memorising equations when i dont know where they come from or why they are the way they are (eg. Fv= pv (1+r)^n or the quadratic equation from gcse). is it going to be like that at a level maths/ FM? or is that what maths is like in general, just memorising equations and using them. is there a better way to see equations rather than some nonsense you have to memorise ( btw, ive only done my gcses)

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ok, i kinda enjoy maths, however, i hate just memorising equations when i dont know where they come from or why they are the way they are (eg. Fv= pv (1+r)^n or the quadratic equation from gcse). is it going to be like that at a level maths/ FM? or is that what maths is like in general, just memorising equations and using them. is there a better way to see equations rather than some nonsense you have to memorise ( btw, ive only done my gcses)

**Azimbrook1**)ok, i kinda enjoy maths, however, i hate just memorising equations when i dont know where they come from or why they are the way they are (eg. Fv= pv (1+r)^n or the quadratic equation from gcse). is it going to be like that at a level maths/ FM? or is that what maths is like in general, just memorising equations and using them. is there a better way to see equations rather than some nonsense you have to memorise ( btw, ive only done my gcses)

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Not at all like that. Unlike gcse, for A level you get a booklet with absolutely every formula you'll need. You don't need to remember any formulas at all

**MagnumKoishi**)Not at all like that. Unlike gcse, for A level you get a booklet with absolutely every formula you'll need. You don't need to remember any formulas at all

With the massive amount of questions you have to do at a level before you become good/confident at a topic, you will have memorised relevant formulas. That will be the least of your concern.

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**MagnumKoishi**)

Not at all like that. Unlike gcse, for A level you get a booklet with absolutely every formula you'll need. You don't need to remember any formulas at all

You're encouraged to learn where they all come from. I'd imagine from your post you'll enjoy how maths works at A level instead of gcse

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That’s is completely incorrect. You do need to memorise the majority of formulas. There are only a few on the inside front page of the test paper, but not many.

With the massive amount of questions you have to do at a level before you become good/confident at a topic, you will have memorised relevant formulas. That will be the least of your concern.

**Jamie_1712**)That’s is completely incorrect. You do need to memorise the majority of formulas. There are only a few on the inside front page of the test paper, but not many.

With the massive amount of questions you have to do at a level before you become good/confident at a topic, you will have memorised relevant formulas. That will be the least of your concern.

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What on earth are you talking about? This summer I've just done AQA A level maths and Edexcel further maths, and got a large formula booklet with everything for both

**MagnumKoishi**)What on earth are you talking about? This summer I've just done AQA A level maths and Edexcel further maths, and got a large formula booklet with everything for both

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**MagnumKoishi**)

Not at all like that. Unlike gcse, for A level you get a booklet with absolutely every formula you'll need. You don't need to remember any formulas at all

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**Jamie_1712**)

That’s is completely incorrect. You do need to memorise the majority of formulas. There are only a few on the inside front page of the test paper, but not many.

With the massive amount of questions you have to do at a level before you become good/confident at a topic, you will have memorised relevant formulas. That will be the least of your concern.

This is the formula booklet I got in my A levels THIS YEAR, and it is the formula booklet that people will get in subsequent years. The other exam boards have equivalents.

https://qualifications.pearson.com/c...mulae_Book.pdf

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alright, we dont need to MEMORISE random formulas, but arent you guys taught random formulas without knowing where they come form ( except the proof question)

**Azimbrook1**)alright, we dont need to MEMORISE random formulas, but arent you guys taught random formulas without knowing where they come form ( except the proof question)

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Okay soo, I just completed a level Edexcel maths and yes there are a lot of formulas. Yes, you do get a formula book with the majority of the formulas in it BUT there will be some formulas that you do need to memorise. Maths requires practice and the more you do a type of question, the more familiar you get with using the formula relevant to the question. For stats and mechanics, you do need to memorise a fair bit in my opinion.

(please make sure you WANT to do maths before picking it as an a level as it is very hard and requires a lot of time and practise. Don't just pick it because "everyone does it" or any other reason)

(please make sure you WANT to do maths before picking it as an a level as it is very hard and requires a lot of time and practise. Don't just pick it because "everyone does it" or any other reason)

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ok, i kinda enjoy maths, however, i hate just memorising equations when i dont know where they come from or why they are the way they are (eg. Fv= pv (1+r)^n or the quadratic equation from gcse). is it going to be like that at a level maths/ FM? or is that what maths is like in general, just memorising equations and using them. is there a better way to see equations rather than some nonsense you have to memorise ( btw, ive only done my gcses)

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**Azimbrook1**)

alright, we dont need to MEMORISE random formulas, but arent you guys taught random formulas without knowing where they come form ( except the proof question)

Really there's not much plugging in values into formulae - what matters is how you use them and the steps you take.

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Okay soo, I just completed a level Edexcel maths and yes there are a lot of formulas. Yes, you do get a formula book with the majority of the formulas in it BUT there will be some formulas that you do need to memorise. Maths requires practice and the more you do a type of question, the more familiar you get with using the formula relevant to the question. For stats and mechanics, you do need to memorise a fair bit in my opinion.

**chak****a**)Okay soo, I just completed a level Edexcel maths and yes there are a lot of formulas. Yes, you do get a formula book with the majority of the formulas in it BUT there will be some formulas that you do need to memorise. Maths requires practice and the more you do a type of question, the more familiar you get with using the formula relevant to the question. For stats and mechanics, you do need to memorise a fair bit in my opinion.

**(please make sure you WANT to do maths before picking it as an a level as it is very hard and requires a lot of time and practise. Don't just pick it because "everyone does it" or any other reason)**
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I've completed Maths and now Further Maths and I have to say that they're great A levels. A good combination of memorization/practice will do you good. It's good to understand the derivations (you can derive nearly every formula) which certainly helped me. But practicing will help you get good at those questions. It's not STEP so it's not meant to differentiate the top mathematicians but it's rewarding in the sense that practice and sufficient understand will help you. They're inversely proportional - the better your understanding, the less practice you'll have to do as the concepts/questions become intuitive.

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**chak****a**)

Okay soo, I just completed a level Edexcel maths and yes there are a lot of formulas. Yes, you do get a formula book with the majority of the formulas in it BUT there will be some formulas that you do need to memorise. Maths requires practice and the more you do a type of question, the more familiar you get with using the formula relevant to the question. For stats and mechanics, you do need to memorise a fair bit in my opinion.

(please make sure you WANT to do maths before picking it as an a level as it is very hard and requires a lot of time and practise. Don't just pick it because "everyone does it" or any other reason)

If you're memorising formulas then you're missing the point of the exam. Sure, you can remember many formulas for various chain rule applications. But its much better to learn the method of the chain rule.

Learning formulas is counter productive- it means people struggle when a question requires thought. Learn a method that can be adapted, not a formula that's applicable to one type of question only

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would assume as the OP is also considering further maths that this won't be an issue.

**_gcx**)would assume as the OP is also considering further maths that this won't be an issue.

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yes i am considering fm, by Why wont that be an issue, are you taught where equations come from in further maths

**Azimbrook1**)yes i am considering fm, by Why wont that be an issue, are you taught where equations come from in further maths

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Again, the specification doesn't specifically require you to know where some of them come from. But most teachers will teach you it anyway

**MagnumKoishi**)Again, the specification doesn't specifically require you to know where some of them come from. But most teachers will teach you it anyway

They give you the formula and will not ask you to prove it, but my teacher showed us intuitively where it came from (and most others would do too)

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**MagnumKoishi**)

Again, the specification doesn't specifically require you to know where some of them come from. But most teachers will teach you it anyway

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its just that my gcse teacher didnt teach us that, so im scared my a level teacher wont (you did say 'most' but not all)

**Azimbrook1**)its just that my gcse teacher didnt teach us that, so im scared my a level teacher wont (you did say 'most' but not all)

What sort of sixth form are you going to?

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