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Which is a better degree ? Please discuss below. I’d like to hear your experiences studying either subject or even both.

In terms of careers, I’m not sure what I want to do as yet but am definitely heading towards a creative path.
Which degree is better in terms of general employability?
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Neither of those courses are creative. Both involve large amounts of critical analysis.

The best degree for you will not be the same as the best degree for someone else. You mention applying in clearing in another post. Please don’t rush into a degree if you’re this unsure about what to study.

There are other options (ideally an Art & Design Foundation Diploma at a local college or university that would give you time to try out studying creative subjects full time while improving your portfolio - there is a FAQ at the top of the art and design forum)
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Do BA English, you won’t find a “creative” job so just try and be realistic
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Do BA English, you won’t find a “creative” job so just try and be realistic
9.6% of workers in the UK are working in creative roles. It’s one of the fastest growing sectors of the economy. Creative jobs aren’t always the most well paid and can involve freelancing/self employment but there’s more to life than dying with the most money.
https://www.thecreativeindustries.co...oyment-figures
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That’s a very misleading spin on the article. Look at the table of “creative industries” and 36% of all creative industries is work connected to IT, software and computer services. So more than a THIRD of all people who work in so called “creative industries” are actually IT and software specialists. So the REAL percentage of people working in “creative industries” i.e. people who would hold some sort of an arts/illustrations degree is ~6.4% (probably even less if you factor out other industries which have no connection to illustrations)

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9.6% of workers in the UK are working in creative roles. It’s one of the fastest growing sectors of the economy. Creative jobs aren’t always the most well paid and can involve freelancing/self employment but there’s more to life than dying with the most money.
https://www.thecreativeindustries.co...oyment-figures
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That’s a very misleading spin on the article. Look at the table of “creative industries” and 36% of all creative industries is work connected to IT, software and computer services. So more than a THIRD of all people who work in so called “creative industries” are actually IT and software specialists. So the REAL percentage of people working in “creative industries” i.e. people who would hold some sort of an arts/illustrations degree is ~6.4% (probably even less if you factor out other industries which have no connection to illustrations)
Do you think graphic designers spend all day designing posters with pencils and paper? Do you think animators mainly use lightboxes? Just because web design, UX design and animation has been digitised doesn’t mean that the people doing those jobs did CS degrees. Graphic design degrees teach specialist software. Graduates work in a range of roles including web and UX design.
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I’m already a freelance artist on the side. Got my work up at the national portrait gallery. I’m just trying to see what degree will keep my options open in the future
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Neither of those courses are creative. Both involve large amounts of critical analysis.

The best degree for you will not be the same as the best degree for someone else. You mention applying in clearing in another post. Please don’t rush into a degree if you’re this unsure about what to study.

There are other options (ideally an Art & Design Foundation Diploma at a local college or university that would give you time to try out studying creative subjects full time while improving your portfolio - there is a FAQ at the top of the art and design forum)
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Do BA English, you won’t find a “creative” job so just try and be realistic
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Neither of those courses are creative. Both involve large amounts of critical analysis.

The best degree for you will not be the same as the best degree for someone else. You mention applying in clearing in another post. Please don’t rush into a degree if you’re this unsure about what to study.

There are other options (ideally an Art & Design Foundation Diploma at a local college or university that would give you time to try out studying creative subjects full time while improving your portfolio - there is a FAQ at the top of the art and design forum)
Some deep insights there, PQ, but personally I think both of those are creative subjects. If you compare them to maths , science etc. They are definitely creative. The real essence of them is analysing people, situations, visual and written culture, hypothetical aspects to life, the visionary .... etc. Etc. They are also quite subjective , there aren’t many solid facts as there are with science or IT. The subjects are more discussion provoking and you have to analyse to find different interpretations.
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That’s a very misleading spin on the article. Look at the table of “creative industries” and 36% of all creative industries is work connected to IT, software and computer services. So more than a THIRD of all people who work in so called “creative industries” are actually IT and software specialists. So the REAL percentage of people working in “creative industries” i.e. people who would hold some sort of an arts/illustrations degree is ~6.4% (probably even less if you factor out other industries which have no connection to illustrations)
Lovely point. IT is really central to most jobs now. It’s the future. Most design software such as “procreate” and art marketing platforms such as Big Cartel have helped to advance the creative industry immensely. Otherwise the arts would be stuck in the past, neoclassical/renaissance era ....
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Personally, I'd say take English and try and do some work experience, and internship or something in a creative industry that interests you. Often, you just need a degree to get through the door of these places, and the experience is actually what matters. something like being a runner on a film set, or a volunteer at a theatre company. these will get you the contacts you need. I'd say English because it offers a more stable back-up plan than History of Art in case none of these work out.
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Personally, I'd say take English and try and do some work experience, and internship or something in a creative industry that interests you. Often, you just need a degree to get through the door of these places, and the experience is actually what matters. something like being a runner on a film set, or a volunteer at a theatre company. these will get you the contacts you need. I'd say English because it offers a more stable back-up plan than History of Art in case none of these work out.
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Which is a better degree ? Please discuss below. I’d like to hear your experiences studying either subject or even both.

In terms of careers, I’m not sure what I want to do as yet but am definitely heading towards a creative path.
Which degree is better in terms of general employability?
Have you thought about doing a joint honours? I'm going to start studying English and History of Art as a joint honours degree this September! I'll tell you how it is once I start the course if you're interested!
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Have you thought about doing a joint honours? I'm going to start studying English and History of Art as a joint honours degree this September! I'll tell you how it is once I start the course if you're interested!
Yes I did consider joint honours at one point but prefer to focus on one subject. Where have you applied to? I’m starting this September too ! Just trying to decide whether or not I should go into clearing and change from English to history of art on results day.
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Yes I did consider joint honours at one point but prefer to focus on one subject. Where have you applied to? I’m starting this September too ! Just trying to decide whether or not I should go into clearing and change from English to history of art on results day.
I'm going to Birmingham!
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I'm going to Birmingham!
Ah amazing !
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