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I am thinking about applying to Dundee to study law. My question is: How well is Dundees law degree (Eng/NI) seen by law firms? More specifically, Law firms in London who are also more focussed internationally. I've read people say that firms will not have a good impression of a degree from Dundee, is this true?
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Hi, I've moved your thread to the law forum. Hopefully someone will be able to advise you soon
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(Original post by maltamishfa1)
Hey guys!

I am thinking about applying to Dundee to study law. My question is: How well is Dundees law degree (Eng/NI) seen by law firms? More specifically, Law firms in London who are also more focussed internationally. I've read people say that firms will not have a good impression of a degree from Dundee, is this true?
Impossible to answer, because there are a lot of commercial 'internationally-focused' firms in London, each with their own recruitment criteria

Besides a few snobby US firms that either recruit exclusively from Oxbridge or from Oxbridge and a few others, I don't think that anyone will filter you out just because you have a degree from Dundee. Grades above all else ^_^

Take a shot and see where you end up
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I don't know too much but I flirted with the prospect of doing law at scottish unis some time ago and I can remember Aberdeen and Dundee being specialists in oil and energy law which allegedly pays very handsomely. But back to your original question - despite what many might tell you, I really think getting a TC is more a case of what you do at university/what you add to your degree than the uni you went to. If you can demonstrate that you're worth giving a shot then it shouldn't really matter what uni you went to.

- Get good grades right from the start. Don't be fooled into thinking 1st year is unimportant just because it doesn't count towards the final degree classification.
- Don't just be a member of the Law Soc (which is more often than not the largest society in most unis). Participate in mooting, debating, negotiating competitions that they organise. Ask engaging questions and build networks at Law fairs. Contest for positions in the Exec Committee (President, Vice-Pres, Treasurer etc).
- If you can't squeeze onto a vacation scheme then why not see if you can do as much regular work experience at a firm near you/your uni? Try applying for summer internships.

To say nothing of the awards for excellence that most unis have for really good grades in particular modules/degrees. Having done these I think you'd come across as far more attractive to the vast majority of firms than a 2:1 grad who relies solely on the RG tag to get him/her the job
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Hi, I've moved your thread to the law forum. Hopefully someone will be able to advise you soon
Thanks!
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Impossible to answer, because there are a lot of commercial 'internationally-focused' firms in London, each with their own recruitment criteria

Besides a few snobby US firms that either recruit exclusively from Oxbridge or from Oxbridge and a few others, I don't think that anyone will filter you out just because you have a degree from Dundee. Grades above all else ^_^

Take a shot and see where you end up
ok, I see. Thanks for the info
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I don't know too much but I flirted with the prospect of doing law at scottish unis some time ago and I can remember Aberdeen and Dundee being specialists in oil and energy law which allegedly pays very handsomely. But back to your original question - despite what many might tell you, I really think getting a TC is more a case of what you do at university/what you add to your degree than the uni you went to. If you can demonstrate that you're worth giving a shot then it shouldn't really matter what uni you went to.

- Get good grades right from the start. Don't be fooled into thinking 1st year is unimportant just because it doesn't count towards the final degree classification.
- Don't just be a member of the Law Soc (which is more often than not the largest society in most unis). Participate in mooting, debating, negotiating competitions that they organise. Ask engaging questions and build networks at Law fairs. Contest for positions in the Exec Committee (President, Vice-Pres, Treasurer etc).
- If you can't squeeze onto a vacation scheme then why not see if you can do as much regular work experience at a firm near you/your uni? Try applying for summer internships.

To say nothing of the awards for excellence that most unis have for really good grades in particular modules/degrees. Having done these I think you'd come across as far more attractive to the vast majority of firms than a 2:1 grad who relies solely on the RG tag to get him/her the job
Thanks I didnt even think about all of that!. Ill make sure to keep it in my mind when I start my degree
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I don't know too much but I flirted with the prospect of doing law at scottish unis some time ago and I can remember Aberdeen and Dundee being specialists in oil and energy law which allegedly pays very handsomely.
Oil and gas specialisation is more something you'd do at postgrad and it's Aberdeen which is renowned for it.

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Hey guys!

I am thinking about applying to Dundee to study law. My question is: How well is Dundees law degree (Eng/NI) seen by law firms? More specifically, Law firms in London who are also more focussed internationally. I've read people say that firms will not have a good impression of a degree from Dundee, is this true?
Never heard of anyone with this particular degree going on to work in a London firm. Of course, you can get there if you're active and build a decent profile. I would be more worried that you're taught 4/5 modules in English law by absolute nobodies.
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Here's a link I'm posting a lot recently: https://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/wh...versities-2019

When it comes to the salaries in the City, Dundee doesn't show on the list. The study says that "any university not featuring here didn't supply strong enough data" so maybe Dundee just didn't bother supplying enough data, but it isn't exactly reassuring. Going back to the 2016 version of the survey (which is of course outdated but has more data than its 2019 counterpart and would probably still be a decent indicator) we can see Dundee doesn't rank in the top 35 universities for representation in London firms.

Now this data should be taken with a grain of salt due to the volatility of the university positions and therefore how quickly the data becomes outdated. However, we could also say that the fact that Dundee doesn't even show up on the radar isn't promising if you want to go into a London firm from there.

Dundee wants AAB for it's Law (ENG/NI) course. Liverpool ranks higher on almost everything and they want ABB, as well as several other better unis that want similar grades.
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Here's a link I'm posting a lot recently: https://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/wh...versities-2019

When it comes to the salaries in the City, Dundee doesn't show on the list. The study says that "any university not featuring here didn't supply strong enough data" so maybe Dundee just didn't bother supplying enough data, but it isn't exactly reassuring. Going back to the 2016 version of the survey (which is of course outdated but has more data than its 2019 counterpart and would probably still be a decent indicator) we can see Dundee doesn't rank in the top 35 universities for representation in London firms.

Now this data should be taken with a grain of salt due to the volatility of the university positions and therefore how quickly the data becomes outdated. However, we could also say that the fact that Dundee doesn't even show up on the radar isn't promising if you want to go into a London firm from there.

Dundee wants AAB for it's Law (ENG/NI) course. Liverpool ranks higher on almost everything and they want ABB, as well as several other better unis that want similar grades.
You don't get the data at all.
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Oil and gas specialisation is more something you'd do at postgrad and it's Aberdeen which is renowned for it.


Never heard of anyone with this particular degree going on to work in a London firm. Of course, you can get there if you're active and build a decent profile. I would be more worried that you're taught 4/5 modules in English law by absolute nobodies.
maltamishfa1 If you're desperate to find data, take a look at Linkedin or through your university's alumni directory (if it has one).

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You don't get the data at all.
They never ****ing do

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Here's a link I'm posting a lot recently: https://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/wh...versities-2019

When it comes to the salaries in the City, Dundee doesn't show on the list. The study says that "any university not featuring here didn't supply strong enough data" so maybe Dundee just didn't bother supplying enough data, but it isn't exactly reassuring. Going back to the 2016 version of the survey (which is of course outdated but has more data than its 2019 counterpart and would probably still be a decent indicator) we can see Dundee doesn't rank in the top 35 universities for representation in London firms.

Now this data should be taken with a grain of salt due to the volatility of the university positions and therefore how quickly the data becomes outdated. However, we could also say that the fact that Dundee doesn't even show up on the radar isn't promising if you want to go into a London firm from there.

Dundee wants AAB for it's Law (ENG/NI) course. Liverpool ranks higher on almost everything and they want ABB, as well as several other better unis that want similar grades.
So much wrong in such a short post:

1. Dundee isn't the one providing the data - the data is being collected from trainees who are being asked questions through an anonymous survey. This survey goes out every year. I daresay that the older solicitors on here have seen it. University of Dundee's administration doesn't get involved. What this data actually means is that the people who spammed the survey didn't get any responses from Dundee grads, or didn't get enough for Dundee to meet some arbitrary criteria for inclusion on the report and table produced by Chambers Student. The bit about top-35 is correct - it just appears that Dundee isn't in the top 35 most represented firms in the City, as reported by CS.
2. The data isn't that volatile - sure, universities move up and down and you see changes in the ranking, but the overall remains fairly constant. What's noteworthy is that the last survey results were published in 2017, and yet many universities have barely gained or lost one percentage point's worth of 'representation'.
3. Dunno what entry grades have to do with anything. Liverpool's regarded as a decent institution despite being a sh*t-tier RG that lets in 95% of applicants and has a good chunk of its cohort enrol with BBB or less.
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