UK to end freedom of movement for EU citizens on day one of Brexit, under new plan Watch

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New home secretary seeks to impose border restrictions immediately on 31 October - despite warnings of people trapped in legal limbo...
Free movement for EU citizens will end on day one of a no-deal Brexit, under new Home Office plans – despite warnings of chaos and of people trapped in legal limbo.

Priti Patel, the new hardline home secretary, is pressing for border restrictions to be imposed immediately on 31 October, even though no replacement system is ready, The Independent has been told.

Previously, ministers had intended to delay scrapping free movement until new rules are in place, with a Bill stuck in the Commons and fierce rows over what those rules should be.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9064376.html
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This sounds like a really bad idea to me.
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Absolutely laughable.
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The Government should be prepared for an Immediate end to freedom of movement. It has to end some time.
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If you don't see the benefits of ending free movement into our country..you're blind. The only thing I can settle for is the gov not giving a hard time to innocent people with income stability and a law abiding record as per a background check, and legal preparations to enter the country like tourism, school or a job ALREADY in place like a company transfer! If you're struggling financially like were on benefits in your native country, or you have a criminal background even with petty theft and you don't have a job lined up then those people need to be rejected or put on a waiting list until their situation clears up. Incomers should also have a good grasp on the ENGLISH language.
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(Original post by Bang Outta Order)
If you don't see the benefits of ending free movement into our country..you're blind. The only thing I can settle for is the gov not giving a hard time to innocent people with income stability and a law abiding record as per a background check, and legal preparations to enter the country like tourism, school or a job ALREADY in place like a company transfer! If you're struggling financially like were on benefits in your native country, or you have a criminal background even with petty theft and you don't have a job lined up then those people need to be rejected or put on a waiting list until their situation clears up. Incomers should also have a good grasp on the ENGLISH language.
It really depends whether you're looking at it from the perspective of the person trying to move to another country, or the minor 'benefits' for the governments.
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Good, keeps competition down.
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Good, we voted to end freedom of movement clearly!
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(Original post by shadowdweller)
This sounds like a really bad idea to me.
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The Government should be prepared for an Immediate end to freedom of movement. It has to end some time.
If we needed any more proof that Boris expects or plans to call an election this is it (immigration, crime and Brexit are what Cummings thinks are the key issues).

Because any election would be shortly before after the 31st he will go into the election able to say that free movement stops almost on day 1 if you grant him a majority at a time when Labour and the Liberals will stupidly argue for it (immigration is good for the economy but polling is massively for reducing it).

The EU limbo is overdone, Boris said in the Commons that he will put them staying in law.
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(Original post by sulaimanali)
New home secretary seeks to impose border restrictions immediately on 31 October - despite warnings of people trapped in legal limbo...
Free movement for EU citizens will end on day one of a no-deal Brexit, under new Home Office plans – despite warnings of chaos and of people trapped in legal limbo.

Priti Patel, the new hardline home secretary, is pressing for border restrictions to be imposed immediately on 31 October, even though no replacement system is ready, The Independent has been told.

Previously, ministers had intended to delay scrapping free movement until new rules are in place, with a Bill stuck in the Commons and fierce rows over what those rules should be.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9064376.html
Really have to say why wouldn’t we end free movement on day one? New migrants will just have to apply like the rest of the world do.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
If we needed any more proof that Boris expects or plans to call an election this is it (immigration, crime and Brexit are what Cummings thinks are the key issues).

Because any election would be shortly before after the 31st he will go into the election able to say that free movement stops almost on day 1 if you grant him a majority at a time when Labour and the Liberals will stupidly argue for it (immigration is good for the economy but polling is massively for reducing it).

The EU limbo is overdone, Boris said in the Commons that he will put them staying in law.
Immigration is good for GDP people care about what the economy does for them.
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cmon bro pls bro rlly got the hots for an EU international student rn boris bro
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Seems unfair not to give people time to adapt and get ready, especially if they’re applying for settled status or whatever it is. Would have thought government would want to be more cautious after their Windrush embarrassment. I don’t agree with the policy of ending free movement on principle, but if we are going to do it, at least let’s not make a complete mess out of the situation.
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‘All British citizens are currently EU citizens.

Come November 1st it won't be EU citizens from different EU counties that lose their freedom of movement, they will retain it for the entire EU just lose it for the UK, it will be all 60 million or so British EU citizens. Us lucky folk will have our EU citizenship and all the rights & freedoms that come with it, FoM included, completely and irrevocably stripped from us. Like it or not. Vote for it or not. Know about it or not......it is being taken away from each and every one of us.

Biggest reduction & removal of rights, freedoms & citizenship in the modern era, possibly ever, and it is almost completely ignored.’
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‘All British citizens are currently EU citizens.

Come November 1st it won't be EU citizens from different EU counties that lose their freedom of movement, they will retain it for the entire EU just lose it for the UK, it will be all 60 million or so British EU citizens. Us lucky folk will have our EU citizenship and all the rights & freedoms that come with it, FoM included, completely and irrevocably stripped from us. Like it or not. Vote for it or not. Know about it or not......it is being taken away from each and every one of us.

Biggest reduction & removal of rights, freedoms & citizenship in the modern era, possibly ever, and it is almost completely ignored.’
No its not, I'm sorry ending freedom of movement was talked about constantly. I'm fact the remainers have since been shouting xenophobia without rhyme or reason ever since.

Removing the freedom of movement was exactly what was voted for, this was 100% clear.
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I don't know how they will do this without breaking the Good Friday Agreement (aka no hard border in Ireland).

Say they end "Freedom of Movement" but not for the Republic of Ireland-Northern Ireland border.

Now an EU citizen comes to Dublin as they are allowed to do so, then drives to Belfast and from there gets to Great Britain via ship.

You could say "Great Britain can just ask for the ID of people coming from Northern Ireland" - that would be treating Northern Ireland differently from the rest of the UK, which the government and the DUP don't want.

So good luck with ending freedom of movement.
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This thread is a yikes
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Really have to say why wouldn’t we end free movement on day one? New migrants will just have to apply like the rest of the world do.
What happens to EU people that have freedom-of-movemented into the country on the day? They won't have British citizenship so... ????
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I don't know how they will do this without breaking the Good Friday Agreement (aka no hard border in Ireland).

Say they end "Freedom of Movement" but not for the Republic of Ireland-Northern Ireland border.

Now an EU citizen comes to Dublin as they are allowed to do so, then drives to Belfast and from there gets to Great Britain via ship.

You could say "Great Britain can just ask for the ID of people coming from Northern Ireland" - that would be treating Northern Ireland differently from the rest of the UK, which the government and the DUP don't want.

So good luck with ending freedom of movement.
An easy way out of this mess would be to create a Northern-Ireland-only customs union, and yes, treat Northern Ireland differently, not just because it it is a solution to the brexit mess, but because Northern Ireland is different from Great Britain. It has entirely different laws, abortion; gay marriage; fox-hunting; education system etc, it's also culturally quite different, feeling more like a hybrid of Great Britain and Ireland, than anything like England. It should also be appreciated that the UK is a political union and Northern Ireland would still be aligned with the UK in foreign affairs, defence and regulation. As for the DUP, they only have 10 MPs out of a total of 650, I think it's fair to say that their influence is overplayed, and a majority in the House of Commons could easily be achieved by cross-party support, especially amongst Labour rebels threatened by the prospect of a no-deal brexit.
Say what you will, but this is the only conceivable solution to brexit, and I would suspect that a similar agreement would be reached in the event of a no-deal.
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