Referendums are not elections Watch

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We are still saddled with an archaic State organisation the authority figures in the legislature have convinced themselves that they represent the soul of the nation, they do not and deliberately do not hold their position at the pleasure of the governed in the UK, an anti-democratic FPTP electoral system sees to that. The ‘will of the people’ in electoral practice means the will of that section of the population that is active at elections which secures a representative (normally by the greatest minority of votes cast). Referendums (on single issues the political establishment cannot resolve) should be the arbiter of the ’will of the people’; they have been afforded the same status as an election which they are not. They are superior to any election because they genuinely mirror the polities will.

The brexit referendum was conducted as though it was an election with two candidates, the case for was only supported by 37.4% of the polity the case against by 34.6%, 28% of the polity were disinterested in the proposition, content with the status quo. The will of the people was that we should stay in the European union. A referendum is not an election it is an exercise in determining the will of the polity and as such people are entitled to not cast their vote in which case those who propose the issue that is put to a referendum have to secure 50% plus 1 of the polities vote not 50% plus 1 of votes cast because a low turnout (or a close vote) in a referendum results in the active minority dominating the will of the majority. Referendums are not elections!
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Paras are good. Use them.
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Yawn....
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it's Referenda btw
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Did the people voting for brexit know how hard it would be to get a deal done? If they had known that a no-deal brexit is very likely, would they have still voted for brexit?
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More voted to leave than remain, it’s a terribly simple concept. Those who did not vote are irrelevant and their opinion unknown. You cannot use them to justify overturning a referendum.

Moreover claiming turnout was low at the referendum is completely false.
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A democratic referendum is not an election its supposed to indicate the level of support for a question in the entire polity not the result of a battle between its partisan members. Turnout was high in comparison with elections (72%) and the result significant but slim which would not matter until you consider that the proposal to change present arrangements is only supported by 37.4% of the polity. The fact that the referendum was treated like an anti-democratic FPTP election (the greatest minority carries the day) undermines the reason for adopting referenda in the first place - testing the will of the nation (not just the partisan members of it). I voted out and will do so again but I believe democracy is inclusive of the silent as well as the partisan.
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