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Ha good luck with that. Even if Rouhani did feel like destroying his domestic standing to meet with this blimp there isnt a hope in hell theyd agree to a new deal unless the US made substantial and legally unbreakable commitments. As thanks to Trump the US's word is lower than mud in international circals... in short they are untrustworthy - as Mr Ali Kamenei noted.

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He will meet anyone if he sees something in it for him.
Iran appears to have gone off the boil for the moment, unless they want to escalate again.
Tbf both sides hate each other anyway. Maybe bombs and missiles is the only way for them.
I hope the UK is out of the straits before it starts.
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Ha good luck with that. Even if Rouhani did feel like destroying his domestic standing to meet with this blimp there isnt a hope in hell theyd agree to a new deal unless the US made substantial and legally unbreakable commitments. As thanks to Trump the US's word is lower than mud in international circals... in short they are untrustworthy - as Mr Ali Kamenei noted.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49475744
It seems likely that what ever Trump says during the G7 is just all for show
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Just pointing out the obvious
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The great part will be when Trump, desperate for some FP achievement in re-election year, offers a deal even more generous to Iran than the JCPOA.
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The great part will be when Trump, desperate for some FP achievement in re-election year, offers a deal even more generous to Iran than the JCPOA.
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It seems likely that what ever Trump says during the G7 is just all for show
Quite possibly but he also seems to think of himself as a 'master deal maker' despite all evidence to the contrary. At any rate even if he were sincere in wanting a new deal, Rouhani doesnt have the power to make one with Trump and Trump has irrepressibly blotted his copy book with Khamenei
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The great part will be when Trump, desperate for some FP achievement in re-election year, offers a deal even more generous to Iran than the JCPOA.
Trump is surrounded by people for whom Iran/Israel is a (arguably the) major driving force in their world view/purpose. These people (along with the most powerful foreign lobbies in the world) will work with everything they have to prevent any form of diplomatic detente with Iran.

Hence, the plan by Macron to get a direct meeting between Rouhani and Trump - to cut-out the extreme anti-Iran neo-cons Trump has surrounded himself with. Rouhani seems to have been going along with this, recently stating in a speech in Iran that he would be willing to meet with Trump if it was in Iran's interests. So it looks like we could see a Trump-Rouhani meeting next month at the UNGA.

The problem is that Trump's demands are conflicting. Sometimes he says all he wants is for Iran to not develop nuclear weapons - that conversation was had for the better part of 2 years, culminating in the JCPOA (which the US violated despite Iran's compliance). Alternatively, driven by Pompeo, he sometimes makes an outlandish list of '12 demands' (which for Trump come under demanding Iran to "act like a normal country" - like his very normal Israeli and Saudi allies, one presumes). The acceptance of these demands would be tantamount to Iran volunteering to give up their sovereignty and bow to the imperialist bully (and become a nice vassal state like most countries are vis-a-vis the US). That is to say, not damn likely whilst the IRGC are around.
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Trump is surrounded by people for whom Iran/Israel is a (arguably the) major driving force in their world view/purpose. These people (along with the most powerful foreign lobbies in the world) will work with everything they have to prevent any form of diplomatic detente with Iran.

Hence, the plan by Macron to get a direct meeting between Rouhani and Trump - to cut-out the extreme anti-Iran neo-cons Trump has surrounded himself with. Rouhani seems to have been going along with this, recently stating in a speech in Iran that he would be willing to meet with Trump if it was in Iran's interests. So it looks like we could see a Trump-Rouhani meeting next month at the UNGA.

The problem is that Trump's demands are conflicting. Sometimes he says all he wants is for Iran to not develop nuclear weapons - that conversation was had for the better part of 2 years, culminating in the JCPOA (which the US violated despite Iran's compliance). Alternatively, driven by Pompeo, he sometimes makes an outlandish list of '12 demands' (which for Trump come under demanding Iran to "act like a normal country" - like his very normal Israeli and Saudi allies, one presumes). The acceptance of these demands would be tantamount to Iran volunteering to give up their sovereignty and bow to the imperialist bully (and become a nice vassal state like most countries are vis-a-vis the US). That is to say, not damn likely whilst the IRGC are around.
Totally agree with this but i'd also add on, further to my previous comment, that thanks to Trump and his band of terrorists sympathizing sycophants ruining the previous deal they have destroyed any good will Khamenei had towards dealing with 'the Great Satan' and no unreasonably so. He gave negotiations a chance and was shown in no short order that America is far to perfidious to be trusted to keep its word.
Whilst Rouhani may or may not want to craft another deal i severely doubt he'll be allowed to, after all most of his political capital is gone thanks to Washington. A deeply ironic turn of events as all theyve done is undermined the moderates and seriously emboldened the hardliners and conservatives.
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Totally agree with this but i'd also add on, further to my previous comment, that thanks to Trump and his band of terrorists sympathizing sycophants ruining the previous deal they have destroyed any good will Khamenei had towards dealing with 'the Great Satan' and no unreasonably so. He gave negotiations a chance and was shown in no short order that America is far to perfidious to be trusted to keep its word.
Whilst Rouhani may or may not want to craft another deal i severely doubt he'll be allowed to, after all most of his political capital is gone thanks to Washington. A deeply ironic turn of events as all theyve done is undermined the moderates and seriously emboldened the hardliners and conservatives.
Rouhani seems to have been allowed to have a meeting with Trump. My take is that from Iran-EU negotiations, Macron wants to give Trump a chance to de-escalate and start negotiations. I don't think this can be a success, but Iran going along with it could show to the EU that it's the US that isn't being reasonable (as if they didn't already know), justifying them taking further steps to circumvent US sanctions against Iran (e.g. by extending a credit line to purchase oil from Iran).
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Quite possibly but he also seems to think of himself as a 'master deal maker' despite all evidence to the contrary. At any rate even if he were sincere in wanting a new deal, Rouhani doesnt have the power to make one with Trump and Trump has irrepressibly blotted his copy book with Khamenei
Trump thinks he’s best at everything, he’s even said he’s best in the past
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