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Yes i believe that we should respect the referendum outcome if it was a majority that voted out. A 16.5 million of individuals who live in the UK voted out of the EU. Which out of more than 65million of individuals who live in the UK to me is not a majority. at all. Thats why many dont respect the outcome of the referendum
There's also the question of were voters told enough to be properly informed over what they were voting for or were the main sources of information:
A) The daily mail,
B) Boris johnson and his bus?

The whole of the referendum and Brexit has been peddled as being the 'democratic' option where the British parliament gets back 'sovereignty', but now the Boris Johnson is literally trying to get round democracy through running down the clock, excluding parliament from the conversation and effectively ruling by decree. Sound like democracy?

I don't think rioting is the way to go but i think protest is definitely necessary to express our discontent peacefully and to essentially stay on the right side of history.
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(Original post by hehwhat)
There's also the question of were voters told enough to be properly informed over what they were voting for or were the main sources of information:
A) The daily mail,
B) Boris johnson and his bus?

The whole of the referendum and Brexit has been peddled as being the 'democratic' option where the British parliament gets back 'sovereignty', but now the Boris Johnson is literally trying to get round democracy through running down the clock, excluding parliament from the conversation and effectively ruling by decree. Sound like democracy?

I don't think rioting is the way to go but i think protest is definitely necessary to express our discontent peacefully and to essentially stay on the right side of history.
You could make the same argument about every vote that has ever been held, indeed remainers could be accused of just listening to the likes of Osborne and reading the Guardian, it doesn't make the result any less valid though.
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(Original post by ColinDent)
Yes I noted that the figures were downgraded from hundreds of thousands to thousands.
You can see with your eyes. If it was like HK then yes it'd be something. This is nothing thankfully
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The people voted to leave the EU. Are you denying us of our democracy?
Just like you remainers are denying the leavers. Hypocrisy
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Just like you remainers are denying the leavers. Hypocrisy
Er I voted leave. I am not a remainer
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Er I voted leave. I am not a remainer
I was the opposite but believe in democracy.
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I was the opposite but believe in democracy.
Good on you
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I wonder if this level of salt can be weaponised because there sure is a lot of it
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I wonder if this level of salt can be weaponised because there sure is a lot of it
Increases blood pressure does salt, avoid at all.costs
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You could make the same argument about every vote that has ever been held, indeed remainers could be accused of just listening to the likes of Osborne and reading the Guardian, it doesn't make the result any less valid though.
That's true but give me a specific example where Osborne has publicly lied about something he knew to be untrue, in order to obtain more power?
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That's true but give me a specific example where Osborne has publicly lied about something he knew to be untrue, in order to obtain more power?
Everything he said in the run up to the referendum.
I'll quantify that by saying that he knew what he was saying was the apocalyptic, absolute worst case scenario, but did not state that.
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Everything he said in the run up to the referendum.
I'll quantify that by saying that he knew what he was saying was the apocalyptic, absolute worst case scenario, but did not state that.
That may be true, but give me a specific example of the 'apocalyptic, absolute worst case scenario' things he said - and tell me how it's not true. Because a lot of what was branded 'project fear' is looking awfully like reality.
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That may be true, but give me a specific example of the 'apocalyptic, absolute worst case scenario' things he said - and tell me how it's not true. Because a lot of what was branded 'project fear' is looking awfully like reality.
It will cost every household £4000 odd, any forecast for what was 14 years in the future, we would immediately go into recession if we voted to leave, you know that kind of stuff.
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How dare the public collectively call for another vote and protest the shutdown of parliament - that's completely against democracy.
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(Original post by SMEGGGY)
A drop in the ocean. This mini protests mean nothing. We shall leave on the 31st of October without a deal.

Long live the Queen!
The Queen is against Brexit. Being for Brexit is therefore an act of treason against the British head of state.
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The Queen is against Brexit. Being for Brexit is therefore an act of treason against the British head of state.
So?
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That may be true, but give me a specific example of the 'apocalyptic, absolute worst case scenario' things he said - and tell me how it's not true. Because a lot of what was branded 'project fear' is looking awfully like reality.
The punishment budget..
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Everything he said in the run up to the referendum.
I'll quantify that by saying that he knew what he was saying was the apocalyptic, absolute worst case scenario, but did not state that.
That doesnt make it a lie... on the other hand telling people that brexit will result in streets paved with gold manifestly was (as theyve all admitted now) never mind that disgraceful lie about the NHS.
Either way point being a lie generally has to have an intention to deceive. Project fear, whilst dubious hasnt been proven wrong yet... hell if anything its slowly coming true piece by piece.
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What’s ur snap?
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That doesnt make it a lie... on the other hand telling people that brexit will result in streets paved with gold manifestly was (as theyve all admitted now) never mind that disgraceful lie about the NHS.
Either way point being a lie generally has to have an intention to deceive. Project fear, whilst dubious hasnt been proven wrong yet... hell if anything its slowly coming true piece by piece.
What would you call willful deceit of the public then?
Oh and please don't embarrass yourself with the whole NHS bus thing as the only people that seemed to be confused by that were fervent remainers, oh wait a minute!
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