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I am currently studying law at KCL... will a first class degree and an Oxbridge LLM/BCL at Distinction standard allow me to gain a place at the commercial bar, or do I need to have an Oxbridge undergrad?
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BCL/LLM would be enough.
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You don't need a postgraduate degree for the commercial bar. Do one if you want to do one.
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You don't need a postgraduate degree for the commercial bar. Do one if you want to do one.
Don't need, but would OP be put in a better position to succeed at the commercial bar with one? There seems to be a tendency, especially amongst non-Oxbridge-educated aspiring barristers, to take on postgrad courses.

It would seem that a top postgrad would demonstrate the USP of "I am really clever", and given the bar is looking for people who are really clever, this should affect prospects?
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Don't need, but would OP be put in a better position to succeed at the commercial bar with one? There seems to be a tendency, especially amongst non-Oxbridge-educated aspiring barristers, to take on postgrad courses.

It would seem that a top postgrad would demonstrate the USP of "I am really clever", and given the bar is looking for people who are really clever, this should affect prospects?
I should start by saying that I have absolutely nothing to do with the recruitment of pupils at my set so this is all just my own opinion.

I agree that there is some correlation between having a postgraduate degree and being a pupil at a commercial set. I just doubt whether the former has more than a trivial causative effect on becoming the latter. Most pupils at the commercial bar get their pupillage pre-BPTC. From my limited circle of friends / acquaintances I would say that the relevant proportion is over 90%. Those doing a post-graduate degree will therefore usually be applying during that degree so that they will not have their results. I do not think that merely the fact that one is studying for a post-grad degree, even the BCL, shows that "I am really clever" (at least, no more than a first class result from KCL). Obviously I am not saying that doing the BCL or an LLM at a good university is pointless but if someone plans on doing it only because it will improve their CV for the purposes of applying to the commercial bar I would question whether they are getting a good return on their money (including the opportunity cost of spending another year studying instead of working). In my opinion it is only worth doing the BCL/LLM if one is at least thinking about becoming an academic, or if one is interested in advanced study for its own sake.
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