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You could argue that people voted remain because they liked being in a group of countries with a white majority
aye that's true but I'd love to see total global unity
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These “hard remain MPs” in leave constituencies were elected by their leave supporting constituents in 2017.

Brexit supporters only have themselves to blame for the current makeup of Parliament.
On manifestos stating that they would uphold the result of the referendum.
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70% of 52% is a minority of 36.4%, so clearly no democratic majority nor mandate for No Deal.
So why then have remain supporting MP's been arguing that we don't know what those of us who voted to leave actually voted for? A majority of us who voted to leave want to leave, if that means no deal then so be it, the lack of a deal is down to parliamentarians shenanigans since the referendum.
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So why then have remain supporting MP's been arguing that we don't know what those of us who voted to leave actually voted for? A majority of us who voted to leave want to leave, if that means no deal then so be it, the lack of a deal is down to parliamentarians shenanigans since the referendum.
For the exact reason that Michael Gove explained earlier this year:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-happens.html

His precise words are: "But we didn’t vote to leave without a deal. That wasn’t the message of the campaign I helped lead."

MPs right now are making sure that the country doesn't end up leaving without a deal. The government only needs to back away from that and accept Theresa May's deal or some variation of it, except they can't/won't because the ERG, DUP and Nigel Farage's party are pulling the strings trying to push for this No deal scenario instead.
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The government only needs to back away from that and accept Theresa May's deal or some variation of it,
You forget that May's government presented her deal to parliament three times and each time it was rejected. To suggest that the government only needs to accept that deal and all will be well is ridiculous.

Parliament has rejected the EU's May deal not one but thrice, the EU, iot is plain, will not offer another and parliament does not want 'no deal'. Having voted to leave, and been elected on a manifesto commitment, in most cases, of leaving the EU, it seems most MPs should attend the remedial class in logical thinking and analysis.
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You forget that May's government presented her deal to parliament three times and each time it was rejected. To suggest that the government only needs to accept that deal and all will be well is ridiculous.

Parliament has rejected the EU's May deal not one but thrice, the EU, iot is plain, will not offer another and parliament does not want 'no deal'. Having voted to leave, and been elected on a manifesto commitment, in most cases, of leaving the EU, it seems most MPs should attend the remedial class in logical thinking and analysis.
If the DUP and ERG had voted in favour of it, then there'd have been a majority (including at least a dozen Labour MPs who voted for it too). Apparently the DUP and ERG want to implement what people voted for, yet as you say, they (including Boris) rejected it 3 times. The reason why we haven't left yet is entirely down to those very same people who supported the Leave vote during the referendum in the first place, and they made promises that the country would leave with a deal.

They could have avoided this had they not been so hell-bent on trying to push the country into a No Deal scenario that they didn't even campaign for and which noone voted for.
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