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Poll: Should men have to pay for the bill at dates?
Yes men should have to pay the bill. (12)
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No men shouldn’t have to pay the bill. (59)
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Debate and discuss your opinion.
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I feel like it’s a nice gesture but it shouldn’t be expected of them
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they shouldn't HAVE to but obviously it'd be nice and stuff. Makes a good first impression
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If a guy's not paying for the first date I'm not going on a second date with him. If he liked you he would a) care enough to impress you, b) want to take care of you (when a man likes a woman, his protective instinct kicks in. If he doesn't like you he won't care). After the first and second though, you can take turns.
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What if there is no man on the date? Or two men? Do they both refuse to pay?
Men and women should probably split payment on first date. Then alternate after that and during the dates.
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(Original post by angelinahx)
If a guy's not paying for the first date I'm not going on a second date with him. If he liked you he would a) care enough to impress you, b) want to take care of you (when a man likes a woman, his protective instinct kicks in. If he doesn't like you he won't care). After the first and second though, you can take turns.
So gender equality and being just as capable and independent as men gets thrown out the window when it comes to getting free stuff? Hmmmm k
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(Original post by randomsheep11)
So gender equality and being just as capable and independent as men gets thrown out the window when it comes to getting free stuff? Hmmmm k
It's in a man's DNA to want to protect people they care about. A way to do that is to pay for the meal. If he doesn't care about you he won't care how you feel about it. I'm bi and I would always pay for the girl's drinks or dinner because I care about impressing her, so why would I not have the same expectations for myself?
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I'm the type of person that would pay for the woman but I don't think it's a necessity for men to pay the bill. I mean, just split the bill. Sorted.
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(Original post by Catherine1973)
What if there is no man on the date? Or two men? Do they both refuse to pay?
Men and women should probably split payment on first date. Then alternate after that and during the dates.
That's what I think should happen. There's 2 types of women, ones who won't let a guy pay for her and ones who insist on a guy paying for her. A middle ground needs to be found and then become the norm.


I guess the nice thing about LGBT couples is that there's no preconceived notions regarding these sorts of things.
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(Original post by Catherine1973)
What if there is no man on the date? Or two men? Do they both refuse to pay?
Men and women should probably split payment on first date. Then alternate after that and during the dates.
I think that you could have a split schedule
One week the man pays
The next week the woman pays
Or just split it as you say
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No.
A lot of women seek equality and I feel as though they should reciprocate the same values themselves. I normally pay for what I eat, or go 50/50.
I feel like this is usually something that needs discussing beforehand though to get the awkwardness out of the way.
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(Original post by angelinahx)
It's in a man's DNA to want to protect people they care about. A way to do that is to pay for the meal. If he doesn't care about you he won't care how you feel about it. I'm bi and I would always pay for the girl's drinks or dinner because I care about impressing her, so why would I not have the same expectations for myself?
So we're going to bring up the "it's in a guys instinct" argument when it comes to a guy paying for your food, but any argument that sounds like "women are naturally child carers, women are naturally weaker than men, women are naturally not gravitated to STEM subjects as much as men" is considered invalid and sexist?
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(Original post by angelinahx)
It's in a man's DNA to want to protect people they care about. A way to do that is to pay for the meal. If he doesn't care about you he won't care how you feel about it. I'm bi and I would always pay for the girl's drinks or dinner because I care about impressing her, so why would I not have the same expectations for myself?
i really don’t think you’ll specifically find “must pay the bill on dates with women” in a mans DNA.
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i think paying the bill on a date is just a nice gesture. either of the two people on the date are able to make a nice gesture, regardless of gender.
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No.

It's a nice gesture if both parties are okay with it, but it shouldn't be an expectation.
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(Original post by angelinahx)
If a guy's not paying for the first date I'm not going on a second date with him. If he liked you he would a) care enough to impress you, b) want to take care of you (when a man likes a woman, his protective instinct kicks in. If he doesn't like you he won't care). After the first and second though, you can take turns.
If a women expects me to pay on a first date and doesn't offer to pay half. She isn't getting a 2nd date.
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call me old fashioned, but is a nice gesture even if its just the first few dates
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I think payments shouldn't be thought of in that way. It's the same with a friend if a bill comes up to £54, I'll say I've got £30 you've got 25 let's split it like that. Doesn't matter if my thing only costed £24 and we don't expect to be paid back. The way I do it is pay or pay an arbritary amount thats usually more than what my food costed. It's no big deal.
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(Original post by BlueIndigoViolet)
call me old fashioned, but is a nice gesture even if its just the first few dates
That's completely fine if you're a guy who wants to do that, but I don't think people should be expecting such niceness from you.
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(Original post by jc933)
If a women expects me to pay on a first date and doesn't offer to pay half. She isn't getting a 2nd date.
I always offer but I'm secretly hoping he'll say no and most of the time they end up doing so. Even guys who typically don't buy girls drinks have bought me drinks in the past because they felt they wanted to impress me.
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