moll.crx
Badges: 2
Rep:
?
#1
Report Thread starter 4 weeks ago
#1
I'm currently in Year 12 at an all-girls grammar school and I want to apply later in the year to sit law at uni, with the intention of becoming a barrister. I am taking RE, History, Goverment and Politics and Economics, and I have fairly solid GCSE results ( 4 7s 2 8s and 4 9s) but not the best.
However I want to look into unis such as UCL, LSE, KCL, Oxford and a few others as I really want to be in London.
I am predicted 4 As plus I am taking my EPQ as well.
Am I being realistic with this dream? Or do I need to start looking at less competitive unis?
Many thanks!
0
reply
Holly jade
Badges: 13
Rep:
?
#2
Report 4 weeks ago
#2
4 As and an EPQ are great, those unis would definitely consider you if you have a strong personal statement, (and interview + entrance exam for oxford)
1
reply
J Papi
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#3
Report 4 weeks ago
#3
You're just about average for offerholders at the jnis you mentioned (though the type of school you attend may work against you slightly)

Just apply and find out. No point in eliminating yourself from the process.
1
reply
moll.crx
Badges: 2
Rep:
?
#4
Report Thread starter 4 weeks ago
#4
(Original post by Holly jade)
4 As and an EPQ are great, those unis would definitely consider you if you have a strong personal statement, (and interview + entrance exam for oxford)
(Original post by JohanGRK)
You're just about average for offerholders at the jnis you mentioned (though the type of school you attend may work against you slightly)

Just apply and find out. No point in eliminating yourself from the process.
Thank you to both of you!
I am definitely going to consider both but will definitely look into other options. I will most likely look into other options such as Birbeck, Goldsmiths, City etc as I know they're less competitive and require lower grades.
I am already practising for the LNAT as I've heard before a good score can make a difference when your results are average like mine.
I will be at a slight disadvantage (I am aware) from attending a grammar school but it was either here or a choice of schools with drug and bullying problems!
Just wondering if any one had any other suggestions for where to look into?
Cheers!
0
reply
harrysbar
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#5
Report 4 weeks ago
#5
(Original post by moll.crx)
Thank you to both of you!
I am definitely going to consider both but will definitely look into other options. I will most likely look into other options such as Birbeck, Goldsmiths, City etc as I know they're less competitive and require lower grades.
I am already practising for the LNAT as I've heard before a good score can make a difference when your results are average like mine.
I will be at a slight disadvantage (I am aware) from attending a grammar school but it was either here or a choice of schools with drug and bullying problemsL!
Just wondering if any one had any other suggestions for where to look into?
Cheers!
It's great that you are also open to unis requiring slightly lower A level grades, as that is the way to make sure you get offers. As great as AAAA is, it is still not the A* AA that LSE/UCL/Kings are ideally looking for, so it is quite possible that you would get rejections from them. I'm not saying you will, just that you might.

If you want to be in London, unis that I would suggest as safer choices (but still better than the ones you mentioned) are Queen Marys and SOAS. QMUL is likely to accept AAA in reality, whereas SOAS will go down even lower so they could be good Insurance choices.

Your school won't actively disadvantage you, it just won't allow you to access any contextual offer schemes.
0
reply
returnmigrant
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#6
Report 4 weeks ago
#6
How to avoid 5 Rejections :https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/uni...ity-rejections

Read it all - but especially the bit about applying to Unis with a range of requirements, and why you should do this.
0
reply
J Papi
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#7
Report 4 weeks ago
#7
(Original post by returnmigrant)
How to avoid 5 Rejections :https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/uni...ity-rejections

Read it all - but especially the bit about applying to Unis with a range of requirements, and why you should do this.
Correct approach for law is to apply to A*AA unis as hopeful/ideal choices and AAA unis as the backup

(Original post by harrysbar)
It's great that you are also open to unis requiring slightly lower A level grades, as that is the way to make sure you get offers. As great as AAAA is, it is still not the A* AA that LSE/UCL/Kings are ideally looking for, so it is quite possible that you would get rejections from them. I'm not saying you will, just that you might.

If you want to be in London, unis that I would suggest as safer choices (but still better than the ones you mentioned) are Queen Marys and SOAS. QMUL is likely to accept AAA in reality, whereas SOAS will go down even lower so they could be good Insurance choices.

Your school won't actively disadvantage you, it just won't allow you to access any contextual offer schemes.
Someone who applies to LSE and UCL with AAAA is going to be rejected. That's why they have minimum entry requirements. If your (statistically speaking, inflated) predictions haven't predicted you AAA on paper, there's very little guarantee that you'll achieve this in the actual exams.
0
reply
harrysbar
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#8
Report 4 weeks ago
#8
(Original post by JohanGRK)
Someone who applies to LSE and UCL with AAAA is going to be rejected. That's why they have minimum entry requirements. If your (statistically speaking, inflated) predictions haven't predicted you AAA on paper, there's very little guarantee that you'll achieve this in the actual exams.
That's what I thought and why I was surprised when you advised OP to "Just apply and find out". At least I suggested they also apply to QMUL and SOAS rather than limit themselves to Oxford plus 3 London unis that are likely to stick with their A*AA requirements (which we both know QMUL doesn't).

I would have got roasted if I had said to OP that they will get rejected because after all, we never 100% know and OP seems set on Oxford or London, so it's hard to find 5 good options. With regard to the spread of choices that returnmigrant referred to, a safer selection would be something like Oxford, LSE or UCL (if they are determined to try), Kings, QMUL and SOAS.
Last edited by harrysbar; 4 weeks ago
0
reply
returnmigrant
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#9
Report 4 weeks ago
#9
(Original post by JohanGRK)
Correct approach for law is to apply to A*AA unis as hopeful/ideal choices and AAA unis as the backup

AAB unis and below are either sh*t or in Clearing
Perhaps you'd like to read the OP again. Likely to be predicted AAA.
What you are suggesting is therefore probably a recipe for at least 4 and probably 5 rejections.

So, maybe you could think of offering some slightly more mature advice.
0
reply
J Papi
Badges: 20
Rep:
?
#10
Report 4 weeks ago
#10
(Original post by harrysbar)
That's what I thought and why I was surprised when you advised OP to "Just apply and find out". At least I suggested they also apply to QMUL and SOAS rather than limit themselves to Oxford plus 3 London unis that are likely to stick with their A*AA requirements (which we both know QMUL doesn't).

I would have got roasted if I had said to OP that they will get rejected because after all, we never 100% know and OP seems set on Oxford or London, so it's hard to find 5 good options. With regard to the spread of choices that returnmigrant referred to, a safer selection would be something like Oxford, LSE or UCL (if they are determined to try), Kings, QMUL and SOAS.
I didn't read the 4As bit, soz.

(Original post by returnmigrant)
Perhaps you'd like to read the OP again. Likely to be predicted AAA.
What you are suggesting is therefore probably a recipe for at least 4 and probably 5 rejections.

So, maybe you could think of offering some slightly more mature advice.
'Mature' is the wrong word to use here lad

Most AAA unis would be happy to take her on though.
0
reply
returnmigrant
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#11
Report 4 weeks ago
#11
(Original post by JohanGRK)
'Mature' is the wrong word to use here lad

Most AAA unis would be happy to take her on though.
Do not call me 'lad', or presume to tell me how I may consider your language.

Finally, you clearly have no idea how the University admissions process actually works.
0
reply
i1e2b3
Badges: 10
Rep:
?
#12
Report 4 weeks ago
#12
If you can, try ask for one of your A’s to be moved to predicted A*, if you’re applying to competitive unis the school may feel happy doing so - my school refused to predict A*’s so I was predicted AAA and achieved A*A*A this year
0
reply
moll.crx
Badges: 2
Rep:
?
#13
Report Thread starter 4 weeks ago
#13
(Original post by harrysbar)
It's great that you are also open to unis requiring slightly lower A level grades, as that is the way to make sure you get offers. As great as AAAA is, it is still not the A* AA that LSE/UCL/Kings are ideally looking for, so it is quite possible that you would get rejections from them. I'm not saying you will, just that you might.

If you want to be in London, unis that I would suggest as safer choices (but still better than the ones you mentioned) are Queen Marys and SOAS. QMUL is likely to accept AAA in reality, whereas SOAS will go down even lower so they could be good Insurance choices.

Your school won't actively disadvantage you, it just won't allow you to access any contextual offer schemes.
What is SOAS law like? Is it the same as other unis or does it have a more international focus?
I've read that queen marys had the same/similar required grades? Is this true or are they more likely to accept lower grades?

(Original post by harrysbar)
That's what I thought and why I was surprised when you advised OP to "Just apply and find out". At least I suggested they also apply to QMUL and SOAS rather than limit themselves to Oxford plus 3 London unis that are likely to stick with their A*AA requirements (which we both know QMUL doesn't).

I would have got roasted if I had said to OP that they will get rejected because after all, we never 100% know and OP seems set on Oxford or London, so it's hard to find 5 good options. With regard to the spread of choices that returnmigrant referred to, a safer selection would be something like Oxford, LSE or UCL (if they are determined to try), Kings, QMUL and SOAS.
I would most definitely prefer to be in London but am still open to other areas. Is there anywhere else in the uk with a good law department that would accept/consider my grades?
0
reply
moll.crx
Badges: 2
Rep:
?
#14
Report Thread starter 4 weeks ago
#14
(Original post by i1e2b3)
If you can, try ask for one of your A’s to be moved to predicted A*, if you’re applying to competitive unis the school may feel happy doing so - my school refused to predict A*’s so I was predicted AAA and achieved A*A*A this year
Yeah my school also has a policy of very rarely predicting a*s so I might speak to my RE teacher as she may be willing as I achieved full marks at GCSE
0
reply
harrysbar
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#15
Report 4 weeks ago
#15
(Original post by moll.crx)
What is SOAS law like? Is it the same as other unis or does it have a more international focus?
I've read that queen marys had the same/similar required grades? Is this true or are they more likely to accept lower grades?


I would most definitely prefer to be in London but am still open to other areas. Is there anywhere else in the uk with a good law department that would accept/consider my grades?
SOAS does offer some niche modules that relate to the developing world so if that doesn't interest you, you might prefer QMUL (although the location of SOAS is arguably better as it is more central). Queen Mary's say they require A*AA but have been in Clearing for the last few years asking for "indicative" grades of AAA.

Other good Law schools asking for around AAA include Nottingham, Manchester, Exeter, York and Leeds.
0
reply
moll.crx
Badges: 2
Rep:
?
#16
Report Thread starter 4 weeks ago
#16
(Original post by harrysbar)
SOAS does offer some niche modules that relate to the developing world so if that doesn't interest you, you might prefer QMUL (although the location of SOAS is arguably better as it is more central). Queen Mary's say they require A*AA but have been in Clearing for the last few years asking for "indicative" grades of AAA.

Other good Law schools asking for around AAA include Nottingham, Manchester, Exeter, York and Leeds.
Cheers I will definitely look onto some of the others (however will defo be avoiding Manchester as it's where in from!)

I've heard mixed reports about SOAS, with some students loving it and some hating it. QMUL, however, does seem like a very good school and am now considering it a serious contender.
Is City at all a good school or is it not worth considering? It has much lower required grades and a fairly decent alumni list?
0
reply
harrysbar
Badges: 21
Rep:
?
#17
Report 4 weeks ago
#17
(Original post by moll.crx)
Cheers I will definitely look onto some of the others (however will defo be avoiding Manchester as it's where in from!)

I've heard mixed reports about SOAS, with some students loving it and some hating it. QMUL, however, does seem like a very good school and am now considering it a serious contender.
Is City at all a good school or is it not worth considering? It has much lower required grades and a fairly decent alumni list?
City is good for Law and Business but not a great uni for other subjects
0
reply
5hyl33n
Badges: 10
Rep:
?
#18
Report 4 weeks ago
#18
UCL and KSE don’t even look at your GCSE’s if everything about your application is amazing. Of course you are not being unrealistic.
0
reply
X

Quick Reply

Attached files
Write a reply...
Reply
new posts
Back
to top
Latest
My Feed

See more of what you like on
The Student Room

You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

Personalise

University open days

  • The University of Law
    The Bar Series: Applications and Interviews - London Bloomsbury campus Postgraduate
    Thu, 17 Oct '19
  • Cardiff Metropolitan University
    Undergraduate Open Day - Llandaff Campus Undergraduate
    Sat, 19 Oct '19
  • Coventry University
    Undergraduate Open Day Undergraduate
    Sat, 19 Oct '19

How has the start of this academic year been for you?

Loving it - gonna be a great year (139)
17.77%
It's just nice to be back! (211)
26.98%
Not great so far... (281)
35.93%
I want to drop out! (151)
19.31%

Watched Threads

View All