No Deal Brexit Will Hit Leave Voting Areas The Hardest - Says Report Watch

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And what exactly will the 'Tory right' do if they are given the chance? Personally I think people who hate on the Tories are the socialist lovers who love receiving others money. Like it or not, right wing economic policies with a dash of socialism are the most effective means of raising the living standards of a nation, this has been proven time and time again while nearly every country with strong left wing policies have brought nothing but economic misery and corruption. No system is perfect but I would take the Tories over Labour any day right now, especially while Comrade Corbyn and Disaster Abbot are in power.

The UK is the greatest country in the world, unparalleled in human history. No other country, least of all Germany have any right to lecture us on what rights we should or shouldn't apply within our own borders, our forefathers did not pay with their blood to defend us from Germany to allow a German dominated institution to have presiding authority over what laws apply on British soil. Germany and it's shameful past destroy any credibility it may have, not to mention the suicidal asylum policy of Angela Merkel has once again reiterated the damage German domination can do. Thank goodness we are not in the Schengen or the Euro, European integration has been a disaster and recent events prove we need less integration with Europe, not more.

As for the law issue, I refer you to ;
https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreute...ge=true&bhcp=1
In addition, many politicians have reiterated that protections existing in EU law will be drafted into UK law upon exiting.

I agree that it appears strange that we would draft some EU law in considering taking back control of our laws was a main selling point of leaving, however some of the basic EU laws are laws we would have drafted in anyway as they are basic rights, it just so happens that we are in the EU so it was dressed up as EU law. Leaving will allows us to retain basic laws and civilised nation would have while throwing off EU regulations and applying regulations that are specific to our nation, not the EU as a whole.

The bottom line is, I believe in Britain. Anything the EU does, we can do at least as well as them, if not better. It's time people had some faith in our nation and dare to believe that we are not inferior to the European Union, we can be friends and trading partners with Europe while retaining our status as a nation. What started as a trade deal has mutated into a political union, something we never asked for. The vote was put to the people and we voted to leave, despite massive opposition from the opposition and establishment.

The media was vastly against Brexit and yet leave won, the EU is wonderful for globalist and multinational co operations but for every day citizens I fail to see the benefit.

Rule Britannia 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
Did you copy that from the Daily Express? If not, I suggest you write to them and see if there are any vacancies. Superb tubthumping for the silvery-haired ladies who wish it was 1953 again!
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Doesnt mean anything peoples no.1 reason for voting was a principle that they didn't like the EU having any legislative power in our country. The next two reasons also didnt have anything to do with the economy. Im tired of the bs remoaner projection, unlike you people we voted on a principle higher than immediate economic benefit, we voted on what kind of country we wanted as apposed to throwing away our country to soulless bureaucratic corporatism for some intimidate cash.
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****ing laughable you like.
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(Original post by imlikeahermit)
:rofl:

****ing laughable you like.
https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/0...y-a-refresher/

No1 reason people voted to leave verbatim "Descions about the UK should be taken in the UK". No 1 reason remain voted voted remain "risk too great to the economy". Everything i said is 100% true at least do a little googling before you reply.
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(Original post by josh75)
https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/0...y-a-refresher/

No1 reason people voted to leave verbatim "Descions about the UK should be taken in the UK". No 1 reason remain voted voted remain "risk too great to the economy". Everything i said is 100% true at least do a little googling before you reply.
I was laughing at this...

“Im tired of the bs remoaner projection, unlike you people we voted on a principle higher than immediate economic benefit, we voted on what kind of country we wanted as apposed to throwing away our country to soulless bureaucratic corporatism for some intimidate cash.“

Every time I read it it gets funnier. **** the economy, **** the expert predictions. As long as we can sing Rule Britannia and have our pride it doesn’t matter if we descend into chaos...

Again, ****ing laughable.
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(Original post by imlikeahermit)
I was laughing at this...

“Im tired of the bs remoaner projection, unlike you people we voted on a principle higher than immediate economic benefit, we voted on what kind of country we wanted as apposed to throwing away our country to soulless bureaucratic corporatism for some intimidate cash.“

Every time I read it it gets funnier. **** the economy, **** the expert predictions. As long as we can sing Rule Britannia and have our pride it doesn’t matter if we descend into chaos...

Again, ****ing laughable.
10% of our economy is based upon exporting goods to the EU. 10%. Our economy won't descend into chaos because we have 25% tariffs on 10% of our economy
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(Original post by Reality Check)
Did you copy that from the Daily Express? If not, I suggest you write to them and see if there are any vacancies. Superb tubthumping for the silvery-haired ladies who wish it was 1953 again!
What has 1953 got to do with anything? These ideas are just as relevant today as ever, if not more so. This is a fight to preserve our national identity in addition to freeing ourselves of a bureaucratic organisation which is ruling us from Brussels. We don't need the EU, we need a Europe of nation states trading and working together, a political union is a complete disaster and it hasn't worked, nor will it ever work. We are bailing from a sinking ship which we never asked to board in the first place.
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10% of our economy is based upon exporting goods to the EU. 10%. Our economy won't descend into chaos because we have 25% tariffs on 10% of our economy
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Omg, stop the pair of the you, I can’t take anymore!
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What is it with all these confidential reports being leaked all the time? Terrible security.
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It rules out Leaving with No Deal on the 31st October.
Not that difficult.
How?

The Benn act doesn't apply to the majority of people needed to stop no deal. Its applies to what - 3% of them?

And as mentioned by someone else, that's questionable.
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Care to explain how the Benn act is affected by this? There's no threats or coercion present in the Benn Act, it's a purely internal affair from the UK.
So the State's representative is free to ignore it then?

A military coup with a gun to the head of the state's representative would also be a purely internal affair from the UK. Take it that wouldnt be coercion either?
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So the State's representative is free to ignore it then?

A military coup with a gun to the head of the state's representative would also be a purely internal affair from the UK. Take it that wouldnt be coercion either?

And this is no military coup, the state cannot ignore it's own law making machine and claim coercion if the government does not like the opinions of parliament. This article 51 of the Vienna convention holds no grounds, it's just further proof that Brexiteers are hostile to democracy
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(Original post by imlikeahermit)
I was laughing at this...

“Im tired of the bs remoaner projection, unlike you people we voted on a principle higher than immediate economic benefit, we voted on what kind of country we wanted as apposed to throwing away our country to soulless bureaucratic corporatism for some intimidate cash.“

Every time I read it it gets funnier. **** the economy, **** the expert predictions. As long as we can sing Rule Britannia and have our pride it doesn’t matter if we descend into chaos...

Again, ****ing laughable.
Typical remoaner dishonesty, if you want to live under bueracrats move to Germany. I know its difficult for you people to understand, but when you make decisions like this you have to think further than 5 year economic predictions given by people that have vested interest to stay, and a bit deeper than whether or not you will have to get a visa for your next holiday to France. The fact of the matter is you lost the vote because you lost the argument.
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(Original post by Sam1999__)
10% of our economy is based upon exporting goods to the EU. 10%. Our economy won't descend into chaos because we have 25% tariffs on 10% of our economy
Who said it will "descend into chaos"?
What will happen is that many businesses will find it difficult to operate. Margins are often so small that even a small fluctuation in exchange rates (for example) can cause problems.
How many manufacturers do you think can remain competitive if their products go up in price by 25%?

Also, do you think that service industries will not be affected by Brexit? The UK's financial sector relies heavily on its ability to freely access the EU markets. Mogg's own investment firm has stated in its own publicity material that new funds opened in Ireland are to avoid the uncertainty and access problems that Brexit will cause. There are also concerns over research and academic investment going elsewhere in the EU.

So we can see that not only will exports be hit by Brexit, but also the service sector.
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How?

The Benn act doesn't apply to the majority of people needed to stop no deal. Its applies to what - 3% of them?

And as mentioned by someone else, that's questionable.
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How?

The Benn act doesn't apply to the majority of people needed to stop no deal. Its applies to what - 3% of them?

And as mentioned by someone else, that's questionable.
The Benn Act requires the executive to send a letter requesting extension if a brexit hasn't been approved by parliament. It doesn't take no deal off the table for certain, it requires parliament to approve a no deal departure, but since there is no mood in parliament for the longest, most drawn out and catastrophic brexit possible (don't believe habitual liars like Farage, no deal is not a clean break, it simply kicks everything down the line to the negotiation of trade deals and creates an absolute mess in UK law), it effectively stops no deal before another general election
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I thought an extension request needed agreeing by the 27?
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The Benn Act requires the executive to send a letter requesting extension if a brexit hasn't been approved by parliament. It doesn't take no deal off the table for certain, it requires parliament to approve a no deal departure, but since there is no mood in parliament for the longest, most drawn out and catastrophic brexit possible (don't believe habitual liars like Farage, no deal is not a clean break, it simply kicks everything down the line to the negotiation of trade deals and creates an absolute mess in UK law), it effectively stops no deal before another general election
How does it stop no deal?

The UK isn't in control of taking no deal off the table unless article 50 is revoked. I dont think the Benn act suggests doing that.
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How does it stop no deal?

The UK isn't in control of taking no deal off the table unless article 50 is revoked. I dont think the Benn act suggests doing that.
I suggest you try reading the post, since I spelt out clearly how it stops a no deal at present.
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I suggest you try reading the post, since I spelt out clearly how it stops a no deal at present.
By forcing the council of minister to accept an extension request?
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I thought an extension request needed agreeing by the 27?
Ah. Yes, it does, but they don't want a No Deal Brexit, and they do not want to be seen as the ones forcing it if it becomes inevitable. An extension request will be approved.
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