Brexit the Movie 31 - Now It Gets Really Heavy Watch

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Hilary Benn again raising the deep inconsistency in the Bill between its claim that Northern Ireland remains in the UK and the statement that companies in NI moving goods to the UK will have to fill out a 'leaving the UK' customs declaration. Apparently the actual status of NI post-Brexit will be unclear, as it often is in other contexts.

Benn also again raises Clause 30 in which at the end of the transition period, if there is still no deal by Dec 2020, the House can agree to a further extension subject to a ministerial motion in the House. However this relies on the Minister being willing and if there is no request to the Joint Committee in 14 month's time means we fall out with No Deal.

At the end of Dec 22 when the extension has been secured, the same difficulty arises again!

Evidently the Bill allows the government to proceed to a No Deal later on.
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Benn is raising another clause, which prevents MPs from considering the economic fallout of various possible free trade deals, presumably because they will all be much worse than staying in the EU. Under the Bill, the government can simply refuse to put these to the House.
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John Redwood now breathing fire on the Bill from the Tory backbenches.
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Looks like the usual suspects in Labour's shadow cabinet are blocking poor Keir Starmer's attempts to bolt a second referendum amendment on. The alter-Marxists of London Labour Briefing (last met: 1976) will not be moved from their comradely positions supporting the decisions of the SWP and the Maoist International, siblings! :lol:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-labour-brexit

When we plunge into the abyss in a few year's time and worker conditions and employment fall off a cliff, it will be as much these creeps as anyone in the ERG or Boris/Cummings pack of professional liars that we will have to thank for it.
Rubbish why are we going to lose all workers rights? This is nonsensical
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Starting to move towards the votes now, house filling up.
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2nd reading - division.

Laconic presenter on the Parliament Channel lobby division duty shift says they will be releasing a Brexit box set. :teehee:
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Rubbish why are we going to lose all workers rights? This is nonsensical
Depends what shade of government we have- I would not bank of keeping them if it were the current lot with a majority.
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2nd reading passes easily, 329 - 299. Now for the critical motions on delaying or not delaying - the programme motion and then the money motion.
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MPs returning now from the programme motion (delaying to have time to scrutinise the bill) vote. Time to see if Boris's threat to withdraw the bill completely if the House wants time to read it will actually be followed through, or if it succeeded in intimidating the House.
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Must be a tight vote.
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Motion defeated, 322 to 308.
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Now for Points of Order.
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Now for Points of Order.
He has suspended the bill.
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PM has already gone back on his threat to seek a general election and is instead now insisting he will continue to treat Oct 31st as the deadline. This is clearly another Cummings wheeze to blame the EU, as the Commission will have to reject this and instead go for an extension. Boris will most certainly consent to an extension but try not to look like he's asked for one!
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He has suspended the bill.
A pause, but for how long? We'll see.
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Ken Clarke as always the voice of reason in the House. He exists to make Boris look stupid.
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A pause, but for how long? We'll see.
I hope the EU blocks an extension.
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I hope the EU blocks an extension.
They won't block it and Johnson won't want them to, despite all the rhetoric.

Interesting to hear Rees Mogg lying to the House just now about the imposition of tariffs between GB and NI, he claimed Labour are confused about it, but it's clear that NI businesses will indeed have to collect refundable tariffs from GB, in case they are heading to the Republic via NI.
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They won't block it and Johnson won't want them to, despite all the rhetoric.

Interesting to hear Rees Mogg lying to the House just now about the imposition of tariffs between GB and NI, he claimed Labour are confused about it, but it's clear that NI businesses will indeed have to collect refundable tariffs from GB, in case they are heading to the Republic via NI.
Of course the EU wont block it. they have been milking the UK for decades, why should they stop now.

Yes, I agree with you about the NI situation. This middle ground for them is a bit iffy to me.
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Depends what shade of government we have- I would not bank of keeping them if it were the current lot with a majority.
This is it. That nonsensical arguement is baced on having a majority Tory government for ever, which is as I said nonsensical.

The current government cannot win a fight in a paper bag in parliament, let alone scrap workers rights. This is more project fear lies.
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