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Need opinions on the best provider to go to for my BPTC in 2020.
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Need opinions on the best provider to go to for my BPTC in 2020.
Thought it was just BPP and UoL? Better trying to find barristers that have done it to tell you the differences.
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I would have thought your best bet would be City uni followed by BPP/UoL

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Need opinions on the best provider to go to for my BPTC in 2020.
There is no “best provider”, just a preference as to where you would want to study. If you prefer London and those prices, there are a number of providers. If you prefer up north, the same applies and so forth. There is no “prestige” associated with BTPC etc. providers
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I really don’t think there is a much of a difference between them, to be honest.

I went to ULaw...I’m inclined to think City is a bit better? I must say, though, I think ULaw’s careers service is the best out of all of them - I secured pupillage whilst on the BPTC and felt well supported throughout that process.

If I’m being completely honest I would select whichever provider gives the most generous scholarships/bursaries/discounts. Also if you are doing the course part-time over two years, there may be differences in lesson times/balance between the number of assessments you need to take each year. Select which provider suits you best practically and financially - chambers etc aren’t going to care where you completed your BPTC.
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There are currently eight BPTC providers. In 2020, there will be nine providers of the bar course. I don’t think it matters which one you choose.
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I went to the Nottingham Law School (part of Nottingham Trent). Their course, when it was the BVC, had a selective intake and paved the way for the modern BPTC.The course - although it was substantially more difficult - seemed to have that recognition attached when I went through the pupillage process myself. I can't say it's the same now, of course, but the candidates at my set who have been to Nottingham always seem to have just a little bit extra about them. The resources are good and the teaching staff, again in my day, were of a very high standard - either practising barristers or teachers who had very recently left the profession. The local sets, of which Ropewalk is the premier, seem to recruit almost exclusively from the Nottingham course.

The advice about scholarships is not a bad way to pick a provider. Most people flock to London on the basis that the networking opportunities are better etc and you are right next to the Inns of Court. Frankly, given the huge increase in living costs, it never seemed to make that much difference. The only actual advantage of a London provider, that was keenly felt by those outside London, was the access to FRU. Getting some FRU cases under your belt could often get you interviews for pupillage!
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It's right to say that, broadly speaking, there is no particular prestige attached to specific courses. When I'm sifting pupillage applications my interest in the BPTC section begins and ends with the grade in the vast majority of cases. So it is really more about which course suits you, either from a location perspective or from the perspective of scholarships and such. Kessler's point about connections to the local Bar is a good one, and whilst it isn't a massive factor, it is one that can be relevant. Kessler's example was Nottingham, but I can say that the same applies to Manchester. I did the bar course at MMU, and it had more connections to sets in Manchester, with a good number of those who secured pupillage off my course subsequently practising in Manchester. It's not something that you should think is going to in some way compensate for you not being a good candidate, because you still need to be a good candidate, but it is a factor that goes hand in hand with the location element.

In terms of quality of the courses, the MMU course is one of the more established. It was a perfectly good course when I did it, but I really can't speak to the quality of any of the courses because I don't have any recent knowledge in that regard. It may be that certain courses have had issues, but I just wouldn't know.

Ultimately it's not a decision that will have a notable bearing on your chances of becoming a barrister, so you should make your choice based on other factors that have already been mentioned in this thread.
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There is no “best provider”, just a preference as to where you would want to study. If you prefer London and those prices, there are a number of providers. If you prefer up north, the same applies and so forth. There is no “prestige” associated with BTPC etc. providers
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I went to the Nottingham Law School (part of Nottingham Trent). Their course, when it was the BVC, had a selective intake and paved the way for the modern BPTC.The course - although it was substantially more difficult - seemed to have that recognition attached when I went through the pupillage process myself. I can't say it's the same now, of course, but the candidates at my set who have been to Nottingham always seem to have just a little bit extra about them. The resources are good and the teaching staff, again in my day, were of a very high standard - either practising barristers or teachers who had very recently left the profession. The local sets, of which Ropewalk is the premier, seem to recruit almost exclusively from the Nottingham course.

The advice about scholarships is not a bad way to pick a provider. Most people flock to London on the basis that the networking opportunities are better etc and you are right next to the Inns of Court. Frankly, given the huge increase in living costs, it never seemed to make that much difference. The only actual advantage of a London provider, that was keenly felt by those outside London, was the access to FRU. Getting some FRU cases under your belt could often get you interviews for pupillage!
Thank you so much!
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It's right to say that, broadly speaking, there is no particular prestige attached to specific courses. When I'm sifting pupillage applications my interest in the BPTC section begins and ends with the grade in the vast majority of cases. So it is really more about which course suits you, either from a location perspective or from the perspective of scholarships and such. Kessler's point about connections to the local Bar is a good one, and whilst it isn't a massive factor, it is one that can be relevant. Kessler's example was Nottingham, but I can say that the same applies to Manchester. I did the bar course at MMU, and it had more connections to sets in Manchester, with a good number of those who secured pupillage off my course subsequently practising in Manchester. It's not something that you should think is going to in some way compensate for you not being a good candidate, because you still need to be a good candidate, but it is a factor that goes hand in hand with the location element.

In terms of quality of the courses, the MMU course is one of the more established. It was a perfectly good course when I did it, but I really can't speak to the quality of any of the courses because I don't have any recent knowledge in that regard. It may be that certain courses have had issues, but I just wouldn't know.

Ultimately it's not a decision that will have a notable bearing on your chances of becoming a barrister, so you should make your choice based on other factors that have already been mentioned in this thread.
Thank you so much for your help!
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I went to the Nottingham Law School (part of Nottingham Trent). Their course, when it was the BVC, had a selective intake and paved the way for the modern BPTC.The course - although it was substantially more difficult - seemed to have that recognition attached when I went through the pupillage process myself. I can't say it's the same now, of course, but the candidates at my set who have been to Nottingham always seem to have just a little bit extra about them. The resources are good and the teaching staff, again in my day, were of a very high standard - either practising barristers or teachers who had very recently left the profession. The local sets, of which Ropewalk is the premier, seem to recruit almost exclusively from the Nottingham course.

The advice about scholarships is not a bad way to pick a provider. Most people flock to London on the basis that the networking opportunities are better etc and you are right next to the Inns of Court. Frankly, given the huge increase in living costs, it never seemed to make that much difference. The only actual advantage of a London provider, that was keenly felt by those outside London, was the access to FRU. Getting some FRU cases under your belt could often get you interviews for pupillage!
That is another advantage that Nottingham Law School offers. Outside of London it is the only regional provider which offers the opportunity to do FRU work.
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Need opinions on the best provider to go to for my BPTC in 2020.
Hello, I went to Manchester Metropolitan, I would say it is also a good school as I managed to pass the dreadful BPTC. LOL.
Anyways, it requires your hardwork too, very much. I do have notes, question banks from different universities, past year mock exam questions from different universities as well, even the topic by topic questions for those modules, additional reading materials too.
Do not hesitate to contact me if you need any help from me. Wishing everyone here reading this thread all the best and good luck! Stay safe under the pandemic!
You could contact me at my phone number: +60125889262
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Need opinions on the best provider to go to for my BPTC in 2020.
There is no best provider. The most important thing is having good notes and past year mock questions then you will pass in one shot. Let me know!
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